One for the Ages
Camaro Concept at the 2006 NAIAS
By Bob Lutz
GM Vice Chairman
Well, by now, many of you have seen the hoopla unfold before your very eyes on our webcast (if not, you can view it online), and the secret is finally confirmed: we introduced a Chevrolet Camaro concept car.
If I had a dime for every time I’ve read the word “Camaro” in your comments on this blog in the past year, I could have financed the concept car out of my own pocket! And I would have… I like it that much.
If anything, it proves that we’ve been listening… to the rear-drive faithful… to the Camaro fanatics… and to those who say GM can’t do anything exciting. I think our design staff did a great job on the concept, which really demonstrates the renewed focus on design throughout GM.
Camaro Concept at the 2006 NAIAS
It recaptures the spirit of the first generation Camaro, one of the most popular sport coupes ever, and redefines it for new generations. But, and this is a big but, it’s not just a retro car, it’s a great design in and of itself. It truly demonstrates passion and performance, inside and out… in everything from the deeply-dished aluminum gauge faces and the three-spoke steering wheel to the 400-horsepower aluminum V8 engine mated to a six-speed manual gearbox. The chassis is also state of the art, with four-wheel independent suspension and four-wheel disc brakes. And don’t forget the big tires, 21 inches up front and 22 inches at the rear.
And for those of you who might say, “Well, the Challenger has 35 hp more,” I would just reply that we have a certified 1OO more on tap from the ZO6 engine, should the need arise.
Make no mistake: We would love to build this car. I would love to have one in my garage. But we cannot commit to it just yet. Circumstances dictate that we have other priorities that come first. For now, we’ll just enjoy what we have, and find out what everybody thinks about it, and we’ll make a final decision on it at our earliest opportunity.
Well, what do you think of it?
- Posted in Auto Shows, Bob Lutz
rekab
Sweet! Will there ever be a Pontiac model on the same platform?
jcrew
Good job guys! If you build it and they will come.
Creed Crutchfield
Absolutely unreal. Few words to describe the looks. If the production car is not exactly the same, don’t bother. Changing anything about this original look would be detrimental to its sales. GM has a terrible history of spinning off cars that are not true to their original concept. The Solstice remained true; I believe the Camaro will too. Bravo!
C3
Jeff
I think it looks beautiful for the most part. I definitely see the influence of the 69 especially (my favorite year for Camaro), but this car is not truly retro - and that’s a good thing. While the new Challenger looks very nice (and is extremely retro), this design is much more breathtaking.
I understand that GM execs cannot publicly comment on whether or not this car is going to make production, but GM needs this vehicle. The Challenger is going to hit next year. The Mustang is already here. GM needs a great RWD V8 power coupe with strogn sales volume. Please get this thing out so I can stick with GM and not go and buy a Challenger!
Chad Green
This is what I’ve been waiting for. I want it!
9c1 lover
Bob, put that thing out as is. Immediately. Three years is too long to give up to the Mustang and LX cars, not to mention anything else that comes along.
If this comes out on anything resembling the GTO’s powertrain, a word of advice from the drag racing community. If you are going to put IRS in it, which is great for a lot of people, especially those who are going to use it as a daily driver, consider some of the upgrades BMR has released, and address some of those drivetrain shortcomings. These cars WILL be raced. Immediately.
Tutor
As a Camaro owner, I’d say it’s about halfway there. But I can’t yet put my finger on what it’s missing. I can’t decide if it’s too retro or not retro enough.
One thing it is, though, is late. I hope there’s still enthusiasm for the retro-muscle car in two years when this thing could hit the lots.
Regardless, though, welcome back Camaro. We missed ya.
Tired_of_waiting
“But we cannot commit to it just yet. Circumstances dictate that we have other priorities that come first.”
This is the epitome of bad management. This decision is easy to make and should have been made five years ago. I, for one, have been waiting for a new camaro since 1999. I’m not waiting ’til 2009.
I’m tired of waiting. Too little too late. Time to go buy a mustang.
Hello and goodbye to the new camaro.
Ayocee
Make it price-competitive with the Mustang GT and the Challenger, and I will drive right on down to the nearest Chevrolet dealer and order one.
Red, with a LS2 and T-56, of course.
Brandon
Having been an F-body enthusiast since shortly out of the womb, I can tell you I really like the direction of the design. I love that the engines appears to not be under the dash, and that it pays tribute to the 1st gen.
However I will say this, it needs to be priced accordingly. If this is a mid $30k car it’s going to fail like the GTO did. The Camaro needs to be priced in the low to mid 20’s for it to succeed.
Hope you guys can get this to market much faster then is reported. To wait 3 more years seems a real shame.
Chris C
Mr Lutz, I love this car. The design language, while hinting at past camaros, is most definately a modern, futuristic shape with great creased lines. This would be a great family look for all chevrolet cars. Two things I must caution, Dodge has come to market with two very expressive and dynamically capable RWD vehicles that owners are raving about. Chevrolet must compete with products that go beyond being good transportation, but make owners enthusiasts. Second, if and when Camaro, or Enclave for that matter, come out in production form, leave as much of that concept aura intact. The G6 concept was beyond stunning, but the production version, while a good looking car, lost that special something. Don’t let the engineers water down your design departments talent!
Eric
Looks Great!
Make a high-quality interior (don’t even bother benchmarking the Mustang’s) and you’ll have Ford running away with its tail between its legs. Offer great engines including the L6 and LS2/LS7 V8s, and Ford will positively be in a world of hurt.
Keep the weight down and don’t change the show car, and GM’s looking at a major hit!
talonsaab
Just do it! However it needs to be priced close to the Mustang or at least have the same value for the money. I’m sure the dynamics will be a lot better.
Tim Geisler
Well, bob, As an owner of 2 firebirds… you’ll probably hear me griping about bringing out the Camaro’s long time companion.
But… While I’m a member of several message boards, GM Product, and Camaro z28 Boards I will tell you, the general impression is Good, you can ask Scott Settlemire to confirm but the general impression is tremendous. At Camaroz28.com last I checked the vote was about 197-20 in favor of the design. Those are pure enthusiast giving it a 90% acceptance. Also some posts also commented that this New concept, while looking better then the leaked images, makes the new mustang look 20 years old, and the upcoming charger looke 35 years old.
I have also heard that this new concept has also got some of the Mopar guys a little excited.
I Think the intierior design needs a complete revamp, and we cannot stress enough that this car must be significantly tested in the wind tunnel. because I’ve put my 02 trans am 3 times over legals speeds and have been satisfied with its performance… hopefully you can do the same for upcomming products.
It looks a bit futuristic, and I’d say when you are to push it into production, increase that future look just a tid bit.
Bob, we’ve been told to keep the faith for over 4 years now… When can we stop holding our breaths give GM a vehicle sale? Many of my friends have had to settle for corvettes because there wasnt a camaro avalible to buy…
Bring it back bob, you had to do the original announcement that it was leaving… bring it back bob!
ohh yea, give me another trans am would you
John
Hey gang, the car sure looks beautiful!
Now how about fixing the link at http://www.gm.com/company/gm_exp_live/events/la_2006/press/en/cc01_02_en.pdf
so we can see the specs on the concept?
And could you all have provided more of a buzzkill with the whole “we cannot commit to it just yet” thing?
I mean, if half the business journalists out there say that GM’s got a better than 50% chance of declaring bankruptcy in 2006, it’s not like building a car that GM fans WANT is really a risky move.
Andy
Mr. Lutz:
The Camaro looks great! But how many years will GM try to live off memories of the past, catering to boomers who may have a mid life crisis and want to drag race a 400 hp car?
I suggest a moratarium on retro concept cars that appeal to people at auto shows, until GM has REAL high volume, best in class competitors for the Camry, Sienna, and Corolla.
I said this a year ago, and I’ll say it again. Focus on HIGH VOLUME, BEST IN CLASS vehicles. All other vehicles should be very low priority.
Kristy
LOVE the car! Now make it soon and make it affordable. I want a red one.
Bob Larson
Well, much better than the Mustang. Possibly a toss-up with the Challenger. The outside is nearly great, maybe fully great in person? The interior is a bit too retro for my taste, although I love the revival of the center mounted quad gauge pack. The problem with this car, in my opinion, is that while jazzy to look at it doesn’t define much if anything really new. There was a time when GM would bring new cars to the market that, visually at least, would send everybody back to the drawing boards. That’s leadership. The 1984 Corvette is a great example if you look at clunky competitors at the time like the Z car–modern as tomorrow, you might say. That kind of confident GM design, coupled with world class quality, fit and finish, is the absolute key to future product success.
And GM has had a number of concept vehicles in recent years that closely qualify, but not too much like that that’s actually come to market so far. In a way, I’d rather see the Cadillac Cien arrive (even though I couldn’t afford it) than this Camaro. But I also hope you make this car, with at least as much visual flair. I wince when I think of the gorgeous California Concept Camaro, which was lamely followed by the actual 1993 production car. The XLR is another regrettable watering down of a great and original design (Evoq). I hope if the Camaro isn’t out until 2009, you can work a little more innovation and leadership into the design and technology, and don’t be afraid to better the Corvette in some ways!
Best Regards,
Bob Larson
(2004 Corvette coupe; 2005 GMC Envoy XUV)
Live2redline
I love it, keep the production model just like it, then I only have one question? Where do I place my deposit? BUILD IT..AND THEY WILL COME
Bobby
Build that thing and Ill be checking it out in show rooms. Nothing beats a 69 in terms of looks. Love the fast back stretched roofline, and functioning shark gills. A ZL1 Performance division LS7 would be sick if money were no option like the COPO, but as Im not loaded, I want to know how much the corner carving Z28 is? Where can we get a model of this concept?
The Tail lights need more 69. The top of the front fenders could be slightly bulged out at the top. Do you think you could alleveate some back pressure by letting it through the grille and out the cowl? Front brake cooler ducts from somewhere in the front openings. These arent knocks, Ive had this idea of building an ultimate 383 road racer 69 with IRS camaro BMW competition for years…
LS 1st Gen
Amazing. Simply amazing. My hat goes off to Mr. Settlemire, Mr. Lutz, and anyone else who made this day possible. I, like many other Camaro enthusiasts, have been following the drama that has been the Camaro story since around 1999-2000 when the first rumors of the cancellation came about. This is exactly what I have been waiting for. Thank you for building this car! You have made one loyal Chevy family happy!
-Gordon Young
Houston, Texas
Tom H.
If you build that Camaro I’ll buy one. Would you have both Z/28 and SS options?
Craig
My dad had a “67 Camaro SS, a ‘72 RS and a ‘82 Z28. I have had a ‘87, ‘89 and a ‘93 Z28. So Camaros run deep in our family. Plus, I have also sold new Chevys, but now I am in business where I deal with all makes. That said, its my opinion that this car, at this time, will appeal to the biggest crowd since the 1969 Camaro. Bob build it and they will came! Just like they are for the HHR, but I believe in even bigger numbers.
MagicWS6
Beautiful, keep the exterior the same for Production.
Firebird? If So, hopefully not retro inspired, and More Sporty/ Less Tough.
Brandon Lutz
I love it!!! Thank you to GM to who listened to our cries of despair and showed us that you listened
Now build the thing so I can add one to my garage!!!
Kyle Jones
I’ve been awaiting this day since 2003. I’ve also had a fund for this car since that same day.
I’ll make you a deal. Throw in 40 extra HP and I’ll sign whatever you want me to.
Ryan
Bob,
Great work on this one. Exterior is fabulous, especially the race inspired fuel filler location! The interior seats and panels are off the charts clean, simple and amazing. Gauges are just what they seem-conceptual-the center aux ones are really a good retro cue. Get the new Malibu out for volume-hope it’s as good as I hear-and then bring this!
Gustav
Build it now! Build it now! Don’t wait! Most importantly - don’t change a thing! Keep it EXACTLY the way it looks! I love it!
Mikko O
Bob, you have listened to the Camaro faithful,now the business case should an easy decision after you hear all the positive responses that you’ll get with this stunning beauty. Just build it and price competively with the Mustang and you’ll have a sure winner on your hands.
Thank you for listening to us, by making this concept a reality. Hoping to see a production version in a few years.
Chris L.
Bla, bla, bla…..about Toyota best in class crap, ENOUGH all ready!!…..The Camaro concept couldn’t have been more perfect!, and I’m your demographic Bob, 40 something with the desire and means to buy it, and obviously I love it ( I STILL love my 01 SS as well and will never sell her)….All I need to know is how fast can I order one, and what are my options….THATS IT!!!…..thanks you Bob, and GM for hearing the enthusists, and Scott finally!!!
Eric Haar
While I know we’d all like a hard answer as to when and if this car will be produced, I feel compelled first and foremost to say “thanks” to both Scott Settlemire our “Keep the Faith” guru and Bob Lutz for even getting us a concept. I’m sure public reaction will be strong and hopefully we’ll see a production version sooner rather than later. You have my word that I will buy this car as soon as it is available. Preferably in Hugger Orange.
Will Lucas
Dear Mr. Lutz and everyone else who had any part of this car. Thank you so so much for this car. The first time I saw the first set of leaked images i nearly cried because it was so beautiful. I had been waiting for it since before the 4th gen’s run was up and have been obsessively living in the 5th gen Camaro forum at http://www.camaroz28.com since 2002 just waiting for any and all of various information i could find.
The exterior is AMAZING. beautifully proportioned and styled. I am in love. It also sounded very mean and muscly when you revved it at the intro this morning at NAIAS. I definately got up early to watch it on the internet.
I would much, much prefer a more modern interior with non split guages. (and i think a lot would agree) but alass, that is a small thing at this stage. Im just so happy its finally here!
Thank you so much.
Remember build it and they will come (even if they dont buy it they may go to dealerships to look at it and end up getting another Chevy! Its a win-win situation)
James Pore
Bravo! Now, QUIT making production excuses and roll the 2007 model in 12/06. I’ll be at the dealership awaiting delivery.
If GM wants to lead the world again in the production of great automobiles to worldwide consumers, Do whatever is neccesary to get it done ASAP. No excuses and don’t be late to the muscle car craze of the new millenium. It’s NOT a fad and it’s here to stay. The time is now for GM to be a leader, instead of a follower in this market.
Phil
This car is simply amazing. Only problem is, it needs to come out sooner! Can’t wait to buy one, soon of course!
Pete
I like it. Just like the new HHR, it gives us a flavor of the past, while still looking modern. Look to the modern GTO in terms of interior packaging and colors. Tan and gray just dont cut it anymore. Black, Red, or Blue interiors just like in my 2004 GTO would be nice and seperate it from others in its class. Also, please make sure “realistic” 18″ wheels don’t make it look weird.
Ryan
Looks great! I would buy one tomorrow if they were made into production vehicles. I’m sure you are aware though that while you are saying GM has other priorities that must come first, Ford is selling the pants off the Mustang, and Chrysler is releasing one car after the other. Do you really want to wait to commit while many potential buyers are going out and making purchases in the next few years. Do you really think that after they buy one retro vehicle they are going to head back to the dealership a few years down the road for yet another one. I feel your biggest weakness is timing, in that GM has been historically slow in getting cars to market. Remember what this buzz is like, you’ll wish you had it 3 years from now!
mark w
Take GM’s design successes over the last couple of years — Solstice, C6 (and Z06!), Sky, Auro, Cobalt SS — and this new Camaro proves to me that GM finally has it’s collective design **** together. This Camaro is simply breathtaking.
The drama and passion in this design is communicated by the menacing scowl, the bulging rear quarter panels, and the massive wheel/rubber combo. These design features absolutely need to carry over if a production model is to be made. Ford lost quite a bit in the translation of its Mustang concept into production, please don’t make the same mistake.
A few concerns: modernize the guage cluster, otherwise I love the orange wraparound giving the interior some flash. And find a way to get t-tops done.
Put this into production and execute. Quickly.
Kade
It is amazing. Build it and I guarantee a will purchase one.
Hylton Jorssen
Just get rid of the stupid looking Knight Rider air induction header panel. That’s one of the things which made the Aztec so ugly.
Ed Gansen
Looks great!
Make sure it has plenty of HP and is priced in the mid-$20K’s.
Make the decision to introduce it ASAP, please - don’t “GM this to death”. Everyone knows it is the right thing to do.
Brian Colvin
Bob,
Thank you and all the others who have listened. If I can get even a 300 hp V8 with even a 5 speed manual for the same price or less than a Mustang GT, I’ll be placing an order, very early. That is, if it has a usable back seat, like the GTO. I would feel fine being one of the ones to help work out the bugs of the first model year. But with GMs recent quality, I know I’ll be fine.
Find a way. I know your boss says cutting market share and making less cars is key to surviving, but I can assure it is the key to failure. Your LPV or Loss Per Vehicle will do nothing but grow.
There are enough SUVs at GM, we need some cars now. This along with a midsize 4 door with a potent engine and RWD (and manual option)….. I may have to put myself into horrendous debt to have a Camaro and a 4 door.
To put it bluntly,
keep it up, you are getting me (I have owned 6 mustangs and 0 Chevys, 1 GMC) excited about Chevys again. But don’t you dare let it die here.
Willis
Nice design and it looks like a good car overall. Too bad it can’t be produced right now since Canada was promised the next Camaro production and their factories aren’t tooled to produce a RWD car at the moment. GM’s inability to build this car due to such politics is simply one more sign that a foreign auto manufacturer needs to step in, buy the company, and save it from itself.
Dan P.
It looks good. I like it better than Mustang or Challenger. Just remember that retro works best when it is a modern intrpretation of a retro design. You arent too far off…
Goatman
So this is what all the Fuss is about? Just when the exterior was starting to grow on me I see the interior….EWWWWWWWW I understand that it is a early concept and there is lots of time for improvement before 09…. Please just don’t rush this car. While there are plenty of people out there who would most likely buy it tomorrow as It looks there are just as many telling you to build it and they don’t have the money to buy. This car need much more work we need to see a more realistic production prototype and for gods sakes we need a engine with at least 450 horses remember there are going to be 475 HP Cobras running around on us. Keep the weight down (3600 or less) and get that power up and I’ll buy.
Jeff Muller
My 1994 has over 300,000 miles. I don’t know how much longer I can wait! Hurry and build it please!
My wife (40 something) has owned every generation Camaro and nothing else in her entire life. I promised her we wouldn’t break the streak.
Do it for my wife!
SweetZRag, South Jersey
demonspeed
With a couple tweaks, it’ll be the perfect evolution of the Camaro. I can’t wait to add a 5th gen to the long list of Camaros I’ve already had! Thank you for helping to rekindle the faith.
Adam Devine
Mr. Lutz,
I am 23. I am a young professional. I currently own a 2004 Malibu Maxx, because I needed a family car. The next car I will be buying will be a musclecar, sometime in the next 2 years. I have already emailed GM through the MyGM link, and called my local dealer to inquire about putting a deposit down for the new model. Give me that concept, exactly as it is, and my $30,000 is yours. If not, someone else will get it, it’s your choice.
Adam Devine
Tom W
I understand that concept cars have exaggerated features. Just don’t water down the production version to the point where women start to buy the car. Keep it a man’s car.
Avoid option packages if possible. Offer as many options a la carte as possible so buyers can configure the Camaro to fit their budget. It worked for Dell.
The interior should fit like a glove and be as ergonomic as possible. Retro accents should be subtle and not draw attention away from the overall cockpit sensation.
Include a compartment in the center console dedicated to portable mp3 players of any brand. All connections should be inside the compartment to keep things tidy and secure.
A biometric security system would be cool.
2009? Are you kidding? Don’t analyze this car to death. Get it out there and tweak it later!
Bill
I know this is something that Bob Lutz has no control over, but this car should have been designed and shown 4 years ago…..
Andy K
Bob et al,
First, congratulations on your official release of this concept. I have been a Chevy enthusiast since birth. My father owned several Corvettes, including a ‘67 L88, was a Corette dealer and a GM Master Bodyman/Painter, and I have owned a ‘91 RS and currently have an ‘02 Camaro SS, so I am very excited to see the positive direction Chevrolet (and, indeed, the rest of GM) is taking. Such successes as the C6, Z06, Solstice, G6, Sky(when it gets released), etc. are really exciting.
This concept is very well executed. While many of the comments I’ve seen/made have focused on the grille, I like it more the more I see it. I would like to see an RS version available (especially if the RS didn’t preclude the Z28/SS options, but was offered in addition to either of these.
The interior is beautiful. I especially like the dash design and guage cluster, but the (orange) lighting may may it hard to read the guages. The seats also look good. I’d like to see coordinating color stitching/dash inserts, like the GTO.
I am very pleased with the LS1 I currently own, and am excited to see the LS2 as a possible offering. I don’t know what other offerings may be considered, but I will make a suggestion. The LS7, while I’d love to have this in the SS, I don’t think it would be practical, being a hand built, low production engine, it would be difficult with current production methods and facilities to offer, especially at a reasonable cost. The LS2 can easily be upgraded in power by GM, using a higher performance head/cam package, long tube headers (though I don;t expect this from the factory), or forced induction. Any of these would be viable ways to ensure the Camaro is competitive upon release. This engine option I would like to see in a SS version of the car. For the Z28, I would like to see either the base LS2 (if the SS had a built version) or a 5.3. If the 5.3 was selected, I would suggest upgrading it for use in the Camaro with stronger (forged) internals, a higher redline, and a minimum of 360HP/360lb-ft torque. This selection would complement the name Z28 nicely, and satisfy most of the “mod” happy racing crowd, while maintaining the SS as the king of stock Camaros. The 3.9 would make a nice selection for the V6 model, and would even be able to compete with some V8 competition. GM has the most powerful engines offered in high production cars, with fuel economy rivaling many significantly less powerful vehicles. Please try to maintain fuel economy above 20MPG city on any engine selection.
The SS, by the way, should be a complete package, much like the Z06 is a complete improvement over the C6. It should have more power, better suspension, some different/exaggerated body panels, exc.
Finally, the issue of weight and price. The weight should be kept to a maximum of 3500lbs. Ideally, it would be somewhat lower. This will ensure competitiveness in performance and help to keep fuel economy reasonable. Pricing should be in line with the Mustang, around $20k for the entry, $25k for the Z28, $30k for the SS. This is similar pricing to the ‘02 model, and will allow it to be truely competitive in sales. GM should not just offer good cars, but they should be the best performing, most innovative, best looking (I know this one’s subjective), and best value in their class. That is how GM got to the top of the automobile world, and how they can re-secure that position. The other cars I’ve mentioned are a good start, and this new Camaro can be the best value to the customer and to GM of them all.
Sorry for the long post. As you can see, I’m very passionate about the subject.
Zack
Bob,
We are very impressed, awestruck and amazed at the new Camaro concept! From the looks and sounds of it, GM needs this car. The Mustang has been riding alone for far too long and with the Dodge Challenger concept being front-page news, GM needs to release this Camaro and put these cheesers to rest.
Ideally, since GM seems to be back on the ball and very serious about retaining the “SS” legend, this Camaro should be released as identical to the concept as possible. I for one will be putting my name on the reserve list the second it becomes available.
Congratulations on the beautiful concept, and here’s to the production model! Cheers!
Jason
I absolutely love it.. and I’ll get rid of my ‘99 Z28 when/if this thing is put into production. One thing I suggest, keep the interior like we see it. That is one of the most modern and beautiful interiors I’ve seen in a sport coupe.
But one thing in the blog I noticed:
“Make no mistake: We would love to build this car. I would love to have one in my garage. But we cannot commit to it just yet. Circumstances dictate that we have other priorities that come first.”
Yet you sink your money and time into the SSR. Now that’s a waste, if you ask me.
Get cracking on the new Camaro!
Matt
Absolutly Beautiful!!! My hope and trust has been restored in GM.
Andrew Gill
Build it. I’ve been waiting 4 years for this year. And to see such a stunning utterly makes my heart beat, something that hasn’t happened since I go into my first Camaro.
Jeff
It’s Awesome!! Just tone down the interior a bit. I’ve got my $$ ready so build this beast for us. I’ll take mine BLACK!
Eric
This concept better make it to my local Chevrolet dealer, and it better be more than competitive with the Gt500 and Challenger. Ive owned only two cars, and they were both Camaros and I am only 19. Im ready to make my first new car purchase, and it has got to be a Camaro.
James Bedoya
“But we cannot commit to it just yet. Circumstances dictate that we have other priorities that come first” Mr. Lutz, what could be more of a priority here! Stop building cars like the HHR, a total waste of time (a competitor to the PT gone wrong!), these are cars with no appeal, no excitement, you guys are deep trouble, time is running out, plain and simple, DON’T change anything from the concept design, a little less retro inside, offer a luxury model by bringing back RS trim, hiding the headlights with doors should not be that difficult, offer SS trim with the Z06 engine and of course the plain vanilla should be just like the concept and you have a winner!
Here is were you guys are guys are going to fail and I hope I am wrong!
1. For sale in 2 to 3 years, too late! Mustang, Challenger by then have eaten a lot of your potential customers.
2. GM has a reputation over and over again of not being faithful to their concepts, you will water down the design and fail miserly!
3. You will take down the size of those wheels not realizing that a huge aftermarket wheel industry has spawned over the last 5 years just because larger wheels give cars and trucks a better stance and look, GM will miss this completely!(make a design deal with Foose or Boyd for the wheel design and….need I say more?? Icing on the cake) But you will not do it or even considered.
Mr. Lutz is time to start giving way to serious bold designs, Chrysler / Dodge / Ford have done it, you have awesome engines, now packaged them correctly and for please make those interiors better, look at Audi for inspiration! I hope you guys the best, this is the year that will make or break GM! LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE! MAKE THAT CAR NOW AND THEY WILL BUY IT! MAKE IT YOUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY!!!! PERIOD!!!!!!!
Scott Nienow
Build it and I’ll buy one.
Kize
Bob,
I took my driver’s road test in my mom’s ‘67 RS Camaro. I have not seen as exciting a Camaro since then! The console gauges are right on but the Speedo & Tach need a little work yet. Don’t forget a modern version of the Bumble Bee stripe. Can’t believe I’ll be darn near 60 when you finally get one ready to sell.
JR
Build it GM!
Jackson E
It looks like a design from Chrysler’s trash can.
This concept does noting to advance the Camaro design, brand, and image nor does it fully commit to retro stylings. It settles into a middle ground that is profound to no-one. This goes to prove the mediocrity of the GM think tank; a half hearted effort.
Matt
Great styling. I love it. It reminds me of my ‘69 Z28 I had. Please keep the curb weight around 3200lbs, put the 427 LS7 in it, and keep the price below $30k….Pretty please.
nikivee
Nice car but, what happened to the 2008 GTO Bob? I guess GM isn’t commited to the “performance division” I expected that we would have seen a concept of the car this year. Maybe next year?
4wood
Wait wait wait…as previously mentioned in this blog, this is the challenge within GM. They always do this. The scenario unfolds where the competition beats them to the market, then years later they try to come out with something similar to compete(HHR, Cobalt, etc.) But alas the boat had left the dock and GM is left waving their ticket saying “wait for me!”.
I truely like GM cars and I do want GM to succeed. I have been driving GM cars for 24 years and desperately want to drive a cool looking and performing car - I can’t afford a SV6 and a CTS, but maybe a SV6 and a Camaro!?.
I hate the fact that other manufacturers are better and faster in bringing the product from paper to pavement.Please build this car and I will buy (lease) it!!
PS I like the new Solstice - but I need at least enough room for two sets of luggage.
Thanks for listening
D
indi500fan
Not to “pile on” but why did GM spend the money bringing the lame SSR to production when they could have done this great Camaro years ago?
jg95z28
Just drop in the LS7, call it Camaro “Z28″ and tell me when I can show up at my Chevy dealer checkbook in hand to place my deposit and order it.
kurt
Bob, GM’s done a nice job at creating the retro RWD so many Americans want. Hopefully GM will listen carefully to feedback on this concept, and then allocate resources to build it.
Hopefully all this focus on RWD won’t dilute other innovative GM products!
Ryan T
Being an F-body enthusiast since the age of 8 (and having owned four of them) I just wanted to say something:
Sitting at my desk at work a tear came to my eye as i viewed the pictures from NAIAS.
Build it and they will come!
Oh and by the way…my friend who is a Dodge nut isn’t so sure he wants a Challenger any more…
Chris
I’ll have mine in black, thanks.
Dan
At 3200 lb. or less, I’m DEFINITELY there! At 3400, maybe. 3600 lb? No way.
I’d rather have less weight than more horsepower!
Dennis Schrage
Mr Lutz,
My Lawyers will be in touch with you soon as I suffered a severe heart attack after seeing that car. That is truly a master piece. Please build it now. Do not wait until 2007 or 8 get it out now.
CF
It’s about time! Those of us on a budget are currently out of luck unless we want a Mustang. While it’s a cool car in general, it’s still a Ford and I don’t buy Ford. So that leaves me with nothing since I can’t afford a Corvette (Z06, of course!).
Dale
I agree with Jackson E.
“It looks like a design from Chrysler’s trash can.”
I used to be a GM man, like my father before me, but this is a company in deep trouble. Some of the newer designs are improving, but this is not one of them. On top of everything else, even the links on your web site to more information about the car don’t work. In any event, it doesn’t really matter because it’ll be made in another country anyway.
I’m staying with Fords.
mark
Right idea, wrong execution. Make this car look more like a 69 camaro (meaning more rounded) instead of the gawd awful Aztec, Cadillac monstrosities on the road and you might make non-GM owners like me return to the brand we learned to drive in. Why do you insist on carrying that horrible Cadillac style grill on all your products? The Beetle, the 911, the concept Challenger, the new Mustang -even your own corvette; they all seem to embody the spirit of their predecesors in a much more elegant way. I quit wanting a camaro in 1974 when you put the horrible slant grill on the front of them and took away the power. Now you have the opportunity to revive the car and low and behold - here goes the slant grille again. Yeah the power is there, but there are many other powerful sports cars out there now that are actually ATTRACTIVE! Maybe the cadillac is a hit with some, but frankly I think it is hideous. This new camaro looks like an attempt to add a new vihicle to your cadillac line. Look at the new Baldwin Motion Camaros and take a clue. why would people pay over $400K for these? Because they are Pretty and remind those of us with money of the cars we loved in the 60’s. Untill you rid your company of the angled malibu, cadilac, aztec style, then your company is on the “stairway to Heaven”, and not “Rock and roll.”
Duane Guy
I love it!!! i was unsure what it would look like but great job!!!-I hope GM plans on building this as i can’t wait to pull up next to a mustang and scare the tailights right off it!
Diane Pasel
This is what a whole lot of people want - excitement in what they drive!
The Camaros and Firebirds NEED to come back to life.
Just make sure it doesn’t get screwed up from concept to production - and especially loose any horsepower.
This car will sell. Order me one!!!!!!!!! NOW!!!
Tim
Build it and Build it SOON!
Mike
Ther car looks awesome. I imagine there will be some minor tweaking before it hits production but thats ok, so long as you keep this as the main idea.
Do not wait until 2009 or you will lose sales dramatically. Bring it out in 2007 and you will have a real winner.
I have yet to hear anybody say anything. My first car was a camaro and I still have it. I plan on owning camaros for the rest of my life if possible.
Build it and people WILL buy it! BUILD IT!
Gene
This is a no brainer — Build it — Please!!!!
I want one!!!!
James H
A huge day for GM and Camaro fans. This concept is a masterpiece. i own a silverado now…and as much as i love this truck and have said i’d never sell it……one Z28 in black, please.
as soon as possible
Mike
Dear Bob,
I was happy when you took the job at GM, I knew you would change stuff. So I am begging you to build this car. Im 31 yrs old have owned my 69 Camaro for 10 years. I have had every body style except the last. I currently own a 2005 GTO which I love, but i am beggin you to make this. I guarantee you a sale the second its possible from me. MAKE IT BOB please
Mike
Scott
I can only echo the comments made by others:
- Looks great!
- Don’t dumb it down for production
- Mid-to-high $20’s to compete with the ‘Stang
- 2009 MY is too long to wait
gerard
All I have to say is YES! I will be there summer of ‘08 (I’m guessing) when the local dealer opens its doors and the Camaro is for sale. Thank you Bob Lutz and GM!
jim
I really like the car, as an owner of many Camaro’s over the years i definately would like one. However, price will play a big part, Ford understands this. All the performance in the world doesn’t matter if you can’t afford it. A performance version in the mid-20’s will be necessary for success i think.
Danny
OK GM - Wake up, the time is here!!!! Your customers have been telling you what they need and want - Management and Engineers are stuck into self preservation mode. What about the introduction of GM’s new truck? LoL - what an embarassment. You actually believe GM customers want that crap?
Foreign car makers are spanking GM and Ford because they give Americans what they desire - not what some Geek Engineers, nickel stackers and white collar wanna b’s think they should have. WAKE UP - LISTEN!!!!!!!!! It results in SALES! They have proven it..
How many years have customers and critics complained about GM cheap dash components??? What has GM done???? If your Engineers can’t make what customers demand - hire some that can…. Simple concept.
Instead of whining about GM health costs - introduce something new and exciting. Hmmm lets see - how far behind the rest of the industry are you?????? Red Flag ——— Time for new blood - Some people with vision who desire to please those they serve - Remember “the customer”.
OK - so the retro Camaro should have been introduced 7 - 8 years ago. Instead GM execs watched while low sales eventually killed the Camaro. Why - because execs didn’t listen - What a sorry body design. Ford has been SPANKING GM for years with a little progressive action, instead of reaction…. Execs must wake up.
Now - how about following through with something. The Retro Camaro is a great start (if not to late). Try utilzing the design attributes it showcases instead of letting the nickel stackers make it an Erkel Ride>>>>>>>> How about some leadership????? I want leaders NOT followers….
How about an SS or Z28???
Enough management babble - make something happen.
Signed,
An embarassed GM owner
67 Camaro
89 S10 Blazer
04 ZR2 Blazer
sh
The other pony always was a “chick car” and still is. This Camaro screams angry - great job.
John
Other priorities !!! What can be more important than putting some life into a company that is going down the tubes due to it’s absolutely boring line of cars. Is the Solstice not proof enough that America wants something new and refreshing? Where are your corporate heads!
I’m 57 years old and in my lifetime, I have owned nothing but sports cars. From GM alone, I have owned an 82 & 85 Camaro (Berlinetta models), an 85 Fiero, and currently own two 96 Firebirds and a 93 Corvette. I’m hungry for a modestly priced sports car from an American company and it does not need 500 HP. The Solstice excites me but I already have a 2 seater and you can’t buy one anyway without bidding for it. The GTO will never cut it. It’an overpriced family car with a big engine.
This Camaro concept car looks great. Build it, for gods sake, and soon at a price in line with the 93-02 Camaro. I need a new car and my patience is running out. America is waiting for something exciting.
dustin
It looks great. Build it, I want this to be the first new car I buy. All of my cars but one have been camaros, I love them. I would really like my first new car purchase to be a camaro, please make it possible.
Frank
Bob,
This Camaro is awesome! It’s the perfect combo of old and new. If you can keep the price about the same as the Mustangs, and stick to the concept design!!!, your going to sell a ton of them.
Build it soon!
Martin
Hats off to you and GM, this concept is exactly what is the doctor ordered. I may be in the minority, but waiting until 2009 is not the end of the world. GM needs to bring higher volume products on-stream before a medium volume Camaro. However, this definitely provided the jolt of electricity GM needed to administer to show it’s alive and moving ahead firmly.
The next key product milestones are the full size pickups, Saturn’s resurrection, and a new Malibu that MATCHES Camry and Accord. Ford did it, so can GM.
Keep going.
Mike
The exterior of the car is an absolute winner. The interior is a disgrace. Certainly, GM could have done a better job blending old and new than that. With some further refinement, this could be a hot package.
Dan
It’s a very good concept car picture. It only needs a little tweaking.
You put a cowl-induction style hood on it, but then ripped a slot in the front of it! The opening goes in the back! (that also cleans up the lines a bit)
The cross-car “band” on the front of the hood doesn’t match the rest of the “flow” of the styling. It is ninety degrees to it.
Other than that, ya done good! Clean styling, very little (if any) chrome, with an agressive “face” and stance.
I know the LS7 motor is too pricey for an F car, so to compete with the Mustang’s and Challenger’s power, you’re going to have to keep that weight down.
Doug Perkins
Awesome effort. Keep it reasonably price competitive with Mustang (and not crowding Corvette turf) and it will sell just fine.
Leverage the platform (do a GTO, Monte Carlo, Firebird, Chevelle) and the business case gets better.
Where do I send my deposit cheque?
Mike O'Reilly
As a young professional i’m always looking for new toys. That car is sexy and stylish its actually got lines and style to it. From my engineering opinion it’s actually laid out well, it doesn’t have any of those after thoughts like my 02 TA has.
Changes:
-Smaller wheels, 22’s don’t work. They are good looking wheels however size does matter, those are to big
-T-Tops i know 69’s don’t have T’s but come on nothing says F-body like T-tops. 70% of the 98-ups were T-top cars
-The rear of the car does not really look right.
Just make the d**n car
-Fast
-Fun
-and Scary
Mike
Purple 92 SS
BOB! Please oh please oh please get this car to market.. and do it faster than 08/09.. 67 to 07 coincidence? I think not. 40th anniversary edition would be great for marketing and for us enthusiasts. I currently own 3 Camaro’s and out of my 6 vehicles 5 are GM so I am definitely brand loyal, but please don’t wait to 08-09 and miss the boat on this car. Get it out now, ASAP and you can count your chickens that I will have one! Beautiful car, great designs, and much thanks from all of us Camaro nuts! Thanks especially to Scott Settlemire for being “the voice of the enthusiast”
Charlie Kulchar
Mr. Lutz,
This concept is beautiful. It is amazing to actually see the car after three years of speculation, countless posts on message boards and conflicting messages from just about everyone. It is a great day to be a Camaro lover and I am glad you understand our enthusiasm.
While am happy we got a Camaro concept, I believe you’re leaving a lot of potential buyers in the cold if you do not offer a removable glass top option. Please consider us buyers who absolutely love the t-tops on our current Camaros.
But again, thank you for this concept.
Dennis Schrage
Mr Lutz,
My Lawyers will be in touch with you soon as I suffered a severe heart attack after seeing that car. That is truly a master piece. Please build it now. Do not wait until 2007 or 8 get it out now.
Andrew
I am so happy to see that the Camaro is back!! I really like the exterior, not so wild about the sunken grille. The interior needs some refinement; the concept looked a little cheap. I’m ready to buy a muscle car, please put this into production soon!
Adam
I have been holding my breath for years and Today is the day I can take a breath and come back to life. My first car was a 95 Camaro and I was currently looking to buy a 69 SS until now. All of us Chevy/Camaro enthusiasts need to come out in droves and show our love for this new Stang Killer! The day you make this reality I will be at my local dealer (Paw Paw, MI) and ordering a SS Convertible. Give us the opportunity to choose performance and interior options like what made the early Camaros so popular and you will find a lot of happy campers. Just do not over price it like the Goat and you will have no problem selling these. Great Job and you have made a Chevy faithful very impressed and happy!
Thank You!
Adam T.
Jim
As a 04′GTO owner, I may have found my next car. Unless you do something as stunning with the revised GTO. Make them both on the same chassis and you got something. I’ve always loved the first gen Camaro, and this is just as nice.
Built on the Zeta chassis?
Mo Slevin
Absolutely fabulous concept. I am a 4th gen owner, and I am eagerly anticipating the Camaro’s return after seeing this beautiful concept. A more functional interior? Please, but don’t change the exterior sytling!
don searles
As a Chevrolet dealer I say, please build us this car as fast as you can. Price it right and we will sell all we can. One of the largest reasons for the slow sales of the old car was the premium that was charged above the competative Mustang. Again, Build it, Price it right, and do it fast! We need this car!
phillip gilliam
Mr. Lutz,
C’mon, stop being a “tease” like my ex-gf!!! Please introduce this car either in late 07 or early 08. Just make changes to the tail lights, the roof strong enough to handle a roll-over, a 320hp DoD V8 (I don’t really need 400+hp for the streets of Philly), and threats to any stealership that will mark-up the car by 10 grand, and I’ll buy one.
Tim
Price it near the Mustang and I would buy it TODAY!
It’s a perfect blend of old and new. Now I know how people felt back in 1966… I’m in love.
Dan
Sorry guys, but I don’t see any chance for T-tops on a modern car. With the roof crush standards as strict and severe as they are now, you can’t cut the roof rails out and be even remotely close to passing. I’ve owned a few of those T-top F cars myself, so I know that the stucture is greatly compromised by them.
Dave Lawson
Hey guys, you know it’s always exhilerating (as opposed to accelerating!) when you read such a hugely positive response to the unveiling. But….and there’s always a but….you just have to know that the interior you saw snapshots of will NOT be the real interior of the vehicle in production. It may carry the general trend over, perhaps some material and colour choices (ugh….chrome), but it will be quite a bit different. By the sounds of some comments, though, it would be suicide to change the exterior lines. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see…with the operative word being wait. Unfortunately, nine women cannot make a baby in one month. Just think though, we all have 24 months (and then some) to save up our pennies. How about this idea: Go sell your old pickups and early SUV’s NOW, buy a Solstice, and put the money you save on gas into the Camaro fund for the next 24 months. I bet you have fun now….and piles of fun later.
Folks….it looks like GM’s awake.
Peter Dalasandro
2009? Not committed? You’ve got the ‘not committed part right’. GM is ALWAYS late to the party. Ford or Chrysler comes out with a new design and a big seller, then GM chimes in 3-4 years later. Examples:
Mustang 1964
GM reacts-Camaro 1967
Chrysler PTCruiser 2000
Chevy HHR - 2005
FORD RWD Police pkg: continual
Chevrolet- success blooms in 94 and fades away in 96
FWD Impalas? Crazy! Yuk!
And now, totally re-vamped FORD Mustang - 2005
Dodge Challenger 2007
Chevy Camaro - 2009 ?
THE WORLD IS LAUGHING!
GM sems to offer a better product, but the window of opportunity has dwindled by the time GM has it’s products for sale.
How’s that workin for you now, Bob?
I like you Bob and have always been a big GM fan. GM isn’t going to turn around with a non-committed, we’ll get to it when we get to it attitude.
Today’s culture now dictates spending habits with a, ‘I want it now!’ attitude. Patience is not a valued virtue anymore.
If you won’t get GM out of 1950’s thinking, you’ll be out of a job along with all those union workers.
Look at history with WW II and the how the automotive industry rose to the occassion, being creative and super productive. We’re at war with other country’s economics and products and it ain’t going to get any easier. I challenge you and GM to show the world what you can do. Bankruptcy is chasing you, Japan is chasing you, Korea is chasing you, GM retirees are chasing you and China will soon be chasing you. It’s time to commit and teach a large Corporation how to muti-task. The rest of the world is doing it. Time to catch up and hopefully pull ahead. I wish you luck gentleman.
Arizona Slim
I seriously hope you’re further along with the production version than this concept leads me to believe. If you’re just now getting started, you really snoozed on the pony car revival. I agree you have bigger fish to fry than a new Camaro, but don’t tease the muscle car crowd, they don’t like to be messed with.
Frank Budzyn
Mr. Lutz, please give us this amazing vehicle in production form. I’ve heard many a time that there will be a 2009 model starting production in early 2008; therefore, I will have my downpayment ready by January 1, 2007, let alone 2008 or ‘09. I am a current owner of a 4th Gen and would absolutely love to see this new Camaro in my driveway. Thank you so much for presenting this masterpiece. Bring it to production as close to the concept as possible.
94Camaro_Z_28
Wow. Just wow. I may only be 21, but I own a 76 T/A, an 82 firebird, an 89 RS Camaro…and my favorite, my 1994 Z28. Build this and I will buy it. And if that rumor of an LS7 equiped Z28 is…well, thats just to much for one day. Also….as for which is top model SS or Z28….pretty simple. Any car can be an SS, only a Camaro is a Z28.
GREAT WORK!!! NOW MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!!
Benjamin Howard
Build it.
Build it.
Build it.
I would change the taillights to the same style as the 2 and 3 gen Camaro and have a more conventional gauges setup with them all in front of the driver instead of having some in the center console. But other then those things it perfect.
claude pardo
Bob,
Fabulous job…though a little late. my 94 Z-28 6 speed and my 01 Vette 6 speeds are the loves of my life. exterior is great. Give the car a world class interior a la “audi” a little less Retro on the gauges and make it shift like “butta” and give me that RED one. I will sell my soul to get that car when it arrives. Above all build it in your best quality plant(Oshawa???) and give it a world class warranty.
Last thing, dont waste GM’s valuable $$$ on the GTO. Build ONE amazing Camaro and ONE ongoing amazing Vette and ONE amazing Solstice/Stingray and concentrate all the rest of avail dollars on great cars and trucks that sell !!!!! Why cant GM build me an accord fighter??? 6 speed world class fuel efficiency and build quality in a great 4 cylinder engine. Sorry G6 aint there yet. Coming but need a better car.
The Camaro IS the right car for the huge interest in Muscle cars and the Camaro will outsell the GTO 7-1.
The day I can order one, I will. The GTO does have one redeeming quality. Nice interior…..put something a la GTO interior except more sporty in the Camaro and give it great sound from the exhaust and you have my sale
One last thing, Please bring back T-Tops !!!!!!!!!!!!!
I use mine every time I drive the Camaro and never bother with the one piece on the Vette. too much of a pain to do alone. No other manufacturer has brought them back and they will sell. Best roof system yet. Please…..
Thanks Bob.
Claude
B.J. Rowan
Fantastic work on the new Camaro concept; its bold design is most certainly a step in the right direction for GM!
I used to joke that GM’s concepts always got watered down severely by production time, but in recent years that has been true less and less often — with the beautiful Pontiac Solstice being the ultimate example. Hopefully the new Camaro can make it to production, and if so, with its aggressive lines intact.
As a man who once owned three Firebirds at the same time (and who still has two), I am overjoyed to see the Camaro return. I am about to take delivery of a 2006 GTO, the last year for the current generation of that marque — so at the very least, can I express my wish that Pontiac Motor Division be graced with their own version of this beautiful concept? Dare I suggest the return of the Firebird?
Whatever you do, please find a way to put the new Camaro on an assembly line — the sooner the better. Rekindle the excitement at GM, and people will remember why they used to buy your products.
Larry Stanger
The Camaro is the best looking car at the show. This car would bring me back to buying GM & American again. I do not want to wait 3 years.
Produce it SOONER !!!!!
M Saxon
I currently own 4 Camaro’s (01 SS - 94 Z28- 79 Rally Sport- 78 Trans Am (F-body at least)
If you build this,I will buy. The styling is great! Just make sure there’s a power plant to back up the good looks!
Richard Recupero
Can I put my order in now?
Love it - hope it will be available soon.
Thks
Rich
Travis Ayres
GM is so full of excitement that you tell us flat out you can’t commit to this concept (read: the only exciting thing from GM in a while).
Great job. I almost had hope. Enjoy what we have? Yeah, Pontiac’s new FRONT WHEEL DRIVE performance cars are just terrific. Because I want to fight the steering wheel when I stomp the on the loud pedal.
Way to make me lose the last bit of faith I have. Lutz, you are a klutz, you need a censor so you don’t unwittingly ruin all the enthusiasm that (might) still remain about GM.
ErikG
Bring it on, Bring it soon…offer it up like Ford did with the new Mustang.
Remember, sometimes competition creates a market on its own, meaning the fact that there is a retro Camaro AND Mustang, it will actually create more interest in both.
Brett
To BOB and GM,
GOD BLESS YOU for making THE most beautiful vehicle I have ever laid my eyes on!
I’m 29 years old, and me and my three younger brothers all own a Camaro. This vehicle is part of our lives, our history, and our family. We would like to commit our wish for you to build this car. It would be great for all four of us to come pick up our New Camaros similar to the way the very first Solstice owners did!
If you build it, we will come!
Brett
cobie gregory
if gm builds that camaro. the wife is trading the mustang in or ill trade in my vette. nice to see a sports car with a back seat and trunk. but gm needs to keep the camaro muscle car heritage and not throw it together with cheap plastic.like ford did with the mustang.i say GM listen to the people and build it they will come to buy it. awsome look. AAA++++
Izzy
Hey Bob,
The Camaro look BLEEPING awesome!!! Words alone can’t convey how quickly my brain has been rendered distraught, and blown away it is by this easily recognizable form. My lower brain functions have been sent into overdrive daydream state where I imagine myself jamming through the car’s yet to be produced gearbox, and watch the world warp past the my field of focus as I stare down corners and hairpin turns. (And for those that must know,) my higher brain functions are fighting a losing battle to prevent myself from completely letting go to lower brain function in the form of making racing car sounds while I grip a imagined steering wheel, and gearshift knob.
I can’t believe how well this long overdue American Icon has been reforged for the next generation, and worry that despite the fact one cannot read in there dreams, (much less write…) I’m doing just that, and will wake up before I end such dream properly by not getting to enjoy the taste of this dream machine. I (and probably most of the rest of the automotive aware world,) only hope that you will with post haste (and the least amount of design changes,) convert this concept to production reality.
Please, do not waste any precious time, or effort in considering any unnecessary design changes. The concept shows that it has been perfectly tempered in preproduction, And begs of you that you push it to production as unadulterated as possible!
And for those that fail to understand me… The above means in the most excited of terms, “Please Bob, stop reading, and start producing it!!!”
Izzy
Frank Donato
Dear Mr. Lutz,
First off, I want to say thank you. Thank you for proving me right in standing strong in my faith in GM, even though sometimes I felt like the only one standing. Thank you for making design a top priority at GM. Between this Camaro and the Enclave “concept”, it appears as though GM will not settle for second best in terms of car design.
I am truly impressed with this Camaro. While I’m not surprised that the overall design evokes the 1969 Camaro, I am amazed at how well designers worked in cues from 2nd, 3rd, and 4th generation Camaros, resulting in a vehicle that doesn’t look retro, but ahead of its time. If I had to wish for something to change, it would be the gauges. Hopefully something more readable can be worked out for the production version.
Just so you know, I’ll have the loan on my 2005 Cobalt LS coupe paid off in June of 2008, just a month shy of my 30th birthday. I can’t think of a better present than the car at the top of this page.
MJ
QUOTE:
“Sorry guys, but I don’t see any chance for T-tops on a modern car. With the roof crush standards as strict and severe as they are now, you can’t cut the roof rails out and be even remotely close to passing. I’ve owned a few of those T-top F cars myself, so I know that the stucture is greatly compromised by them.”
Even so, federal roof standards haven’t changed in decades. If the F-bodies passed fed standards back in ‘02, they will still pass in ‘09. I don’t recall any changes in the FMVSS roof crush standard in the pipeline (although it is needed). Though, the IIHS may find reason to complain in thier testing.
When it comes down to it, no roof is more comprmised than a convertable and they are still hanging around.
Great to finally see this. I sitll the prefer the more modern lines of the GT500 with the leading hood edge. but, this is also a great looking car melding a current shape with heritage styling cues.
I’m happy we didn’t have to wait 3 years for the mustang to arrive. Ford wisely stayed commited to thier pony car, deveoped it, and then made a concept to give a teaser in advance.
Anyways, get moving on this and redeem GM!!!
JVRSSHURRICANE
I watched the webcast and was absolutely amazed. Please send this car to production A.S.A.P. I think it should definitely have more horsepower, more than the Pontiac GTO. It should be only second to the Corvette, so if the Corvette needs more HP and Torque in order to beef up the Camaro then so be it! But thank you for letting an American Legend be re-born.
Bob Larson
Contrary to Mr. Delsandro’s post, there will not be a Challenger in 2007. It’s not even officially greenlighted for production, and if so they’re saying 18-24 months away. That puts its intro head to head with this Camaro, if approved.
Further, Ford never dropped the Mustang, it stayed in production and development. So I’d say GM is not so much late to the party here as it is cautiously re-interested in the segment (thanks to the ‘05 Mustang, of course.) While GM’s decision to kill the Camaro and Firebird might have made sense to the finance department, I don’t think it’s usually not a good idea to kill products that help define the soul and heritage of a company.
beken
The Camaro is a nice concept, Bob. Congratulations. People love it. When can we get one? 2009??? You’re not even committed to that??? If it comes out, will the production version convey the passion of the concept? Or will it be watered down by production considerations?
Oh…congratulations on getting the Solstice out and looking pretty darn close to the concept. You’re on a roll. When am I going to actually see one on the road or in my local dealer showroom?
I think I’ll go to my local Japanese or European car dealer and buy a car I actually want. Too bad GM has lots of great concepts but none in production.
Here’s a heads-up. I will be replacing my family sedan in 2009. I will NOT be replacing it with a truck. or Xuv. The cars that currently exist today that attract my attention are not GM models. Nor are they Toyota Camry’s or Honda Accords. Maybe a Mazda6 or Ford Fusion is headed in the right direction. But they do not hit the nail on the head for me as a must buy. Maybe things will have changed by 2009.
So, getting back to the Camaro, you’ve got the process started….design the concept. But GM is not in the business of designing concepts. GM is in the business of designing, building and selling cars. The only time where you reap the fruits of your labors is in the sale. Too bad that by the time GM gets to the sale part, they’ve lost focus on the concept.
Oh…by the ways, wasn’t 2010 the year fuel cell cars were supposed to become available?
Hmmmm…a fuel cell Camaro.
..what a challenge.
Rob
This new concept is great I would buy camaro over mustang and challenger ANY DAY though 2009 is one h**l of a wait.
Don’t rush it but please hurry, everyone is ready for a new Camaro and has been for 4 years now. Please Please Please build this ASAP. And please keep it in the Mustang GT price range.
Build it and we will come.
DD
Want to sell to blue states??? Make a Green version (Berlinetta) i.e. Saturn Vue. College girls and tree hugger sales will help boost sales over 100k so the rest of us can buy SS’s for less than 25k!!!
Keep the body and wheels true to concept and you will have my busines!!!
B
Build it Bob!
Toque
Build it !
Tim Geisler
Bob, I just went to the LA Auto Show and saw it in person… I must say wow… looks a lot better in person, and probably will look even better with me behind the wheel if you get my drift ;).
But… I’m unsure of how the Zeta platform is coming along, but I was thinking, If you need 150-160k vehicles to make this thing worth while… I think you’re dreaming unless you are speaking about the Zeta Platform… and if you are speaking about the Zeta, what possibilitys are there that you could stretch the Zeta and put a 4 door rwd in the making?
is cadillac gonna get a CSC or CTC?
Is pontiac going to get their flagship back as the Trans Am?
will Buick get their Convertable Coupe?
Again what about a stretched version, I remember in the olden days Camaro’s were based off of a different car, they had the same hood lines and look to them… So why couldnt you let the Camaro/Zeta platfrom be shared by others to make it more profitable?
Sure I’m probably telling you things you already know… but how many platforms does GM need to stay profitable. Like we saw with the Kappa, the Nomad would be illogical to make, because it would alter the platform too much. but what about the Zeta, is it flexible? can we work with it?
You are looking for FeedBack MR lutz, you’ve had this blog up for maybe 5 hours and you have over 125 responses… thats more response then any other blog…
Bring it back Bob… do it for us at the dealership… the Camaro is also more then just profit, it’s an image, free adverstisement (via magazine comparson), free customer visits to the dealerships…
Bob, I currently own 2 firebirds, And I can promise as long as GM is in business, becaues of those two cars I refuse to even consider a different auto manufacture… Because of those two cars, I work in a Chevrolet Dealership. Because of those two cars, my life has been involved around cars… That must be the Innovation that comes standard… That must be the 350ci thats moving us forward… That must be the Best of all its a Chevrolet… That must be the breakthough for me… what about the other 125 people who have already posted on this blog
Pete
Great job on the new camaro…If priced well, this could be a huge seller for the General. My only fear is that after the beancounters get ahold of it, it’ll wind up looking like a ‘99 cavalier.
Sullivan
Mr. Lutz this needs to be built for the good of our company! Lets have it base in the low 20’s and
have the big engines available for low dollars and this while eat the other two half breeds. I think I’m going to waste a whole roll of film on it while im at COBO.
Rich
Don’t forget the convertible version.
Izzy
Hey Bob, I know Its probably extreamly rude to post twice on the same subject… But I do have one question… (Before I go back to making pretend Im driving the next Camaro)
If I remember correctly, you guys had to kill the Zeta platform, (that was reported as being the most likly possible platform to base a Camaro off of…) to focus on the TH900 SUVs about a year ago… But this Concept Camaro is out for viewing within the time needed to modify a tested platform.. And released at the same time as DC is releasing there Challanger concept.
I get the feeling a former disgruntaled Dodge Engineer was hired by GM. But if that was the case… the question would be if the Zeta platform was really closed for research?
Christian Aviles
What do we think? Why have you guys been holding back? Build it and do it right. Try not to cheapen the interior.
Tom
The new concept camaro is stunning, not perfect, but a beautiful care nonetheless.. If you built it in it’s current form, i would buy one ASAP.. to be successful, this car must not only please enthusiests, but also be appealing to the masses, easier to get into, more upright seating position, respectable back seat and cargo room.. make it somewhat practical and it will be a hit, because it is one beautiful car
SteveG
Your last paragraph pretty much said it all-you cannot commit to it.
This is why GM is faltering. Chrysler is going to build the Challenger. Chrysler has the Charger and 300C already.
Yet GM is still not committed to the Camaro. It shouldnt have been a concept car it should have been a production ready car.
Now, if you don’t end up building it, or wait until 2009 to sell one, you will really hear the outcry.
GM has too much going on now? GM is the biggest car company on the planet, for now. You make the time for it. You build it to build excitement in your most important division.
However, if the base model is priced hired than the base model Mustang it will be dead in the water. You need an inexpensive 6 cylinder model to match the Stang. Otherwise, all you are doing is undercutting the Corvette.
Hey, why not build it on Kappa? You already have the platform, use it!
RW
I think it’s an excellent design rendition. While providing enough retro cues to satisfy those looking for nostalgia in their cars, it’s much more of an independent design exercise than the Challenger concept and the current Mustang. It manages to look menacing and yet somewhat sophisticated at the same time.
I also love the powertrain - a manual transmission is a must for a muscle car (although Dodge failed to recognize this for the Charger), and I’ve been waiting for GM to offer the Corvette engine with cylinder deactivation.
Finally, the fully independent suspension is a welcome feature, and should ensure outstanding handling.
I truly believe that if GM builds it and the price and powertrain offerings are right, GM will sell more than enough of them to ensure the car’s profitability
Dan Palka
Finally, geez. I never had any doubt that the Camaro would return. I 100% believe you will produce this, and probably are biting your tongue while reading these blog comments, just wishing you could burst out of your office and tell everybody that it is slated for production.
The exterior is stunning. It is amazing. It is the most beautiful car I have ever seen. It is recognizeable as a Camaro, yet isn’t super retro like the new Challenger is. It is a NEW car, for a NEW muscle car era. Forget Ford and Dodge, this is it. This is the car America has been waiting for.
The Interior is fine. It’s different. I’m sure its great in person.
Don’t waste time thinking about how to change the car for production. Don’t waste time listening to reactions at the auto show or posters on this blog who offer their ides for how you should tweak the car. This car is needed in Chevrolet showrooms right now.
Built it… BUILT IT… start tooling today.
Aaron Curiel
What can I really say… when I saw the concept there were no word to explain how drop dead gorgeous the car is! Granted that i’ve never owned a Camaro, I sure as h**l wouldn’t mind having one someone in the near future… Coming from a GM family I have a lot of respect for most of the cars and trucks, and this one is no exception.
What a way to win back the Toyohondassans with a retro 69 camaro!!! Built it and they will come!
BTW Keep up the great work, you are GM’s savior Mr. Lutz!!
Sincerely,
Aaron Curiel
Our GM family of vehicles!
2006 Chevrolet HHR (My Future)
2004 Chevrolet Avalanche Z71 (Parents Current)
2003 Chevrolet Trailblazer (Traded - Parents)
2002 Chevrolet Silverado (Traded - Parents)
2000 Chevrolet Blazer ZR2 (My Current)
1995 Pontiac Bonneville (Parents Current)
1975 GMC Sierra (Parents Current)
gary geisland
VERY COOL
Start building them, when you’re ready I’ll be ready to buy one
L79
Mr Lutz,
What an excellent Camaro this is! I was very excited about this car since the first pics slipped out, all i can say is great job to you and the people involved! Now lets see what the production dates are so i can go order my hugger orange white skunk striped Camaro!(and white interior i’m hoping…houndstooth optional..:)…)
John
Bob,
Looks very nice. Nice balance between retro/futuristic. Hope you can keep the weight down, unlike Mustang.
GM needs this in production now though. I understand you can’t make it until 2009 MY because of the CAW contract. However, as bad as things are you think the union could negotiate to let you out of that clause a little early. GM has been pretty good to CAW, but they have to realize until market share goes up, there won’t be any new jobs for them too. It is worth a shot, then let’s see how fast your engineers really are! Rooting for GM. By the way, the Enclave is beautiful, don’t change anything at all inside or out!!!
Chris Fisher
I have had 3 Camaros so far: an ‘89 RS, ‘02 Z28 and now a ‘99 SS convertible. My current SS is my weekend toy and I’ll be ready to replace my daily driver Beretta within the next few years with this new Camaro! Please build it, and I will buy one! I do not want a Ford or a Dodge, but if there are no other options, I’d have to consider them. Please allow me to stay in the GM family! Make mine a navy blue SS 6 speed please!
braden
build this concept, its beautiful and it will sell like crazy. something for me to buy with my first paycheque after university
KT
I have always liked the camaro and liked sports cars. I think if this goes into production this will be the hottest selling sports car of all time. The looks are so good. I can see the old camaro in it, but it looks very futuristic. I think GM has finally taken a risk and developed a car that is edgy enough to create a lot of excitement and turn the company around.
J M
Love it. Great interior.
Can I get one in Penske Blue?
André
Fantastic. That’s what I can say about this concept Camaro. In my point of view, it leaves the Challenger biting the dust.
As GM is bringing back some classic nameplates in a very nice incarnations, isn’t it time to look better to the talent of GM do Brasil’s boys and bring back the Brazilian classic of Chevrolet, the Opala? As I said other times, there’s a huge price and size gap between the new Brazilian Vectra and the Aussie Omega, a gap that will get bigger when the ride from the land of kangaroo and koala debut it’s VE generation, riding on Zeta platform. A very nice niche is opened to an affordable big, RWD, and Brazilian-made car. Look at the price of Accord LX 2.0. It’s almost the same of Vectra Elite. If someone says that Brazil cannot afford a big (midsize in American standards) car reasonably priced, is telling a lie.
In the world, there’s a gap in GM’s platform lineup. You got Kappa, small and for limited productions and will have Zeta, mass-market and big. There’s a very nice gap for something between these two, as known that a real world version of the concept Torana TT36 won’t be in the streets. The original Opala was by the same size of this concept, so, bigger than Vectra, but smaller than the Aussie Omega.
You could also synchronize the Brazilian engine lineup with Opel’s. Hey, the Family I and II engines are good engines, but if want to know who’s the gas-guzzler in every niche of Brazil’s market, you just need to say Chevrolet. Hey, it’s time to phase out these units and replace them with the Ecotec ones, which could also be brought with flex-fuel capacity (even ranging from E0 to E100. Renault has in its FFV lineup, so, it’s possible to be done by GM, which today’s FFV range can burn from E25 to E100).
And isn’t it time to return to the big truck market here in my country? Ford sells the F-250 in simple and crew cab and does well (the only other alternative is the Mexican built Ram, only in crew cab and 4WD, costing a lot more than Ford’s competitor). Since you phased out the Silverado (which correspond to the last C/K-Series to the American), Ford is ruling alone this niche, which had GM’s leadership in other times (the time of the 20-Series and the first years of Silverado). Hey, Brazilian isn’t so rich as other people, but there is space to something bigger than Celtas, Corsas and Astras, since decently priced.
Michael
Build it!
I have owned two Camaro’s, a 1990 RS and my current 2000Z28. Both are great cars and I will buy this Camaro if you build it.
IRS, LS2, aggressive styling, nice interior, etc….make mine black!
J M
As a Camaro fan and an owner of a Z28 and a Chevy Blazer, I would like to say thanks to you Bob for keeping the dream alive. Thanks for your hard work on this. We Camaro fans really do appreciate it.
B. Stock
I have check in hand for what is sure to be the greatest comeback in Chevrolet history. I am a die-hard GM fan and have been lost without my Camaro. I will be the first in line for the new Z/28…(just keep it under $30K!)
Chris
I’m sure the knee-jerk public reaction will generally be positive.
Personally, I hoped for a more retro-styled contemporary design. Generally, I think the basic body style is good but the nose and tail are big misses. I think the grill opening needs to be rounded, less pointed, larger with more emphasis on the headlamps. As for the tail, I it looks the back of what should be a concept Vette. I guess it all comes down to market feedback. Not everyone will have as strong of an attachment to the first generation Camaros.
I’d buy a 67 or 68 before a similar production version of the concept. I think my savior could be the Challenger concept. It will get better press and attention, which may encourage GM to include more retro styling cues. However, the Challenger looks a little too retro in my book.
DB
I was always a big fan of late 60s GM cars and this is a worthy nod to that era. I love the new Mustang, but I have to admit I like this better.
I agree with the others. If it makes it to market, it has to look EXACTLY like this. GM has a huge track record of producing excellent concepts and lackluster real-world models.
Don’t even get me started on the mid-engined Buick Wildcat.
Sean
I love the Design and think this great car for as much as 30k (Even the cheapo mustang gt stripped down to a base model costs like 28,000 after dealer premiums.) but going over 30k would kill this car. One Requests though, make a good automatic(not a 4 speed) or even a SMG available. Something to give this car a more broad appeal and make it easier on the car guy to convince the car guy’s wife to make the purchase. That and a SMG would shift faster too.
Jess McClure
Growing up I aways wanted a Camaro Z-28 , now I can buy anything I want , I want this new Camaro, Thanks for keeping the american dream alive.
Keith Osburn
Mr. Lutz:
I just saw the Camaro Concept. Why are you guys hemming and hawing about building it? With all the bad news coming from GM lately, you can’t afford NOT to build this car! GM needs this car ASAP! You cannot wait two or three years to decide; that kind of indecisiveness is one of the reasons GM got itself into the predicament its in now.
If and when you decide to build the Camaro, I have a few suggestions:
1. Don’t price this thing over $25,000. Over-pricing is what doomed the SSR and crippled the GTO. Keep the car affordable!
2. Build the car to Toyota-level standards of quality. Don’t take the cheap way out. It might cost you more in the beginning, but think of how much you’ll get back in positive owner feedback, postitive press — and increased sales as a result of the owner feedback and positive press.
3. REIN IN YOUR DEALERS. Do not allow those predatory bastards to gouge your customers.
4. Design and engineer ALL future GM products with the same passion and “joie de vivre” that the Camaro Concept was obviously created with. Imagine, if you will, an Impala that does not look like its trying to be an upsize Honda Accord! An Impala that looks like an IMPALA. For goodness sakes, let your designers DESIGN, and let your engineers ENGINEER! I’m sure you’ll reap the benefits sooner than you think!
Okay, that’s my two cents worth, now there’s only one thing to do: BUILD THE CAMARO!
Sam
Please build it, and quickly. I’ll take a black convertible, 6 speed, and hopefully with the new 6.2L, somewhere around 420hp.
I’ve owned seven F-bodies, and look forward to having a new Camaro in the garage once again.
Mark
This concept represents the first glimmer of hope that GM really does listen to its enthusiasts. I don’t think I’m overstating when I say August 29, 2002 was one of the darkest days in GM history, certainly GM performance history, as the last F-bodies rolled off the line. Bob, let’s not kid around here. We all know your pet projects have a great chance of being produced when you back them. You got the Solstice to production quicker than any GM concept in history. I know you don’t have the final say in what gets built, but this Camaro is EXACTLY what Chevrolet needs. It is time to pump some real, red-booded AMERICAN excitement back into those showrooms. Camaro needs to be a priority Bob, and we all have seen what can happen when YOU make a vehicle a priority.
andrey sokolov
i own 2 4th generation fbodys and i absolutly love the way this is headed please make it, we will buy it for sure.
Bill
BUILD IT ALREADY!
Andrew
While I’m sure the design will change somewhat between the concept and production, I absolutely love it. The look grew on me immediately, and I can’t wait to see how they turn out for a 2009 production year. I do hope for an LS7 version of the car, or something a little stronger than the LS2.
Harry Stearns
Leave the design EXACTLY like it is and bring it to production mid year 2007. This thing will sell like hot cakes to both young and old alike. Don’t let the challenger make it to market before the Camaro. Price it competatively with the Mustang GT and you will own the segment. My Daughter just purchased a 2006 HHR and she loves all the looks and questions she gets about the car….. your design studio is on a roll!! Build it and I will buy one.
Anthony
I’ve seen the Camaro concept and all I can say is THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!! As long as the production interior matches the exterior and isn’t retro or G6-like, it will be great. Assuming you produce it. You want to produce it. I know you do.
Edward
Build It!!! and leave it looking exactly the way it looks now, it looks real good, i’d buy one if its worth the price, i like the way that you didnt make it look exactly the way the ‘69 did but added that “new” look to it, Great Job!
Will
BUILD IT! BUILD IT! BUILD IT!
A new Camaro… at last. This is something the Japanese CANNOT build. A true AMERICAN muscle car. I realize there needs to be a V6 version to build profitability. But don’t water the car down. Alacarte options would be an even better “retro” feature. I’d like an RS/SS in red with the black bumble bee stripe and an LS2 and a T 56. Hidden headlights for the SS, too. A Z28 for the 5.3 V8.Keep it competitve with the ’stang and lets kick the you know what out of blue oval and mopar rear-end. My 2000 Blazer will be paid off in February of 2007 and I’m ready to go. The trucks are on their way to market already. The Camaro should be priority 1.
Mr. Lutz , First THANK YOU and Second, to use another American co.’s Phrase “JUST DO IT”
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE
Mark
Nice car. As a college aged guy, I’d say I’d buy it. This is of course assuming it is priced in the same category as the current Ford Mustang (which I am very fond of), so please build a smaller engine model. The only other potential show stoppers would be the roof height, (i’m 6′3″ and I was able to fit in a ‘90 Prizm, so I hope I can fit in this Camaro) and I think the gauge arrangement is awful. I’m not sure if the gauges on the shifter console is some retro thing, but if it is, look back to see if there was a reason for why that was canned- I bet there is. My head will be up high as it is, I don’t want to be looking at the floor to check on my gas. However, I might warm up to the idea of the clock being in with the speedometer; that could be a help on late dashes to work! Also, where are the backup lights?
Overall though, nice job. I think GM did a much better job in the race to catch the Ford Mustang than Dodge. I like the modern look of the Camaro, better than the Challenger’s “we drove a 1970 in to the design room, and look what we came up with, the same damn thing!” look. I would rank the Camaro first, the Mustang a close second, and the Challenger something I probably would not consider. The sooner you build this car (or at least declare that you will build it) the better. If GM is going bankrupt, and plans for the car are up in the air, I’ll probably be visiting a Ford dealer. So please do what you can to make this happen!
I wish everyone at GM good luck, I REALLY hope you are able to build this car. If you want to send one out for me to test, I’d be happy to do so.
-Mark
stan
If you build it they will come!!!!Its a head turner!!!Youve gotta home run on your hands.A 69 version Camaro designed with 21st century technology.Its breathtaking!!!GREAT JOB!!!!
Hobbes
Has mucho promise, but un-Pimp the roofline (too Chrysler 300)and retro the grill. Drivetrain sounds PERFECT.
Bob Miller
I love it. I owned a 1998 Camaro Z28 (white with t-tops) and enjoyed the car immensely. Don’t wait until 2009 - put this car out on the market quick!
Ken K.
I just have to know…did you invite the Ford guys over during their lunch break to design this one? It looks like a Mustang rip-off.
At least Chrysler got the Challenger right. Good grief Bob…wake up!
Frank Catalano
Thank you very much for bringing back my favorite car of all time. I have owned two fourth generation Z/28’s and cannot wait to buy this new fifth generation. All I can say is build it as quickly as possible, and while I want it to be cheap, in all honestly I will pay what I have to just build it.
This car will save your GM from the grave if you just let it. Thank you again!
John
Don’t change a thing just get this car into production soon. I have owned a 3rd Gen.(89 IROC)
I own a second gen ( 80 Sport Coupe) If this car goes to production I WILL own a 5th Gen.
Long live the Camaro.
David
Please build it!!
JOHN
I think the car needs a 500 horse motor and needs to have a front end of the 69 only…a real chrome grill…big headlights…and a real chrome bumper
Zach Hudson
An amazing car! Everything that a Camaro should be.
Chris
Oh my god bout time oh i cant say that yet because its not here yet its just a concept come on guys you know you must put this camaro out asap. If you don’t you will have so many angry people because i’am a die hard camaro fan and this one is just off the chain. Please don’t change anything from the concept because it is perfect in my eyes and can you do all of us camaro fans a favor and bring this beast out in 2007 and not 2010 or later we can’t wait that long its too long too wait now that we have a taste. And when u bring this beast out make it affordable no more than $30,000 please that would be nice the GTO should be an example of what not to do.This car looks damn good keep up the good work.
Pete
Wow! WOW! This is a grand slam home run times two. Thank you, Bob! Now I know why I didn’t lose faith and buy a new Mustang. Please build it ASAP. I must have one (or two)!
paul
The idea is great and needed. I do like the concept of the interior, very 1st generation camaro, good.
I am concerned about the front nose, I think it needs to loose some width, I think it is too bulky. I would also prefer a smooth roof, too much design.
Cleophas
First of All….
THANK YOU Bob!
It was three years coming, but worth the wait….
I am a current fourth generation owner, and a member of a family with strong GM tradition and my faith in Chevy has been renewed with this return of a true American icon. There should not be any questions about production, because it, along with the new Corvette will revolutionize, and redefine the Chevy brand as the true-blue model of American performance. This new Camaro will sell off of dealers lots and showroom floors if you just build it, just as it does with its rival competitor. I hope to be one to sit behind the wheel of one in a few short years..
Warren Bowman
Sir,
I too have been an “F-Body” fan for quite some time, currently enjoying a 2002 SS Convertable. The concept is an excellent starting point and has made a bold statement that GM really CAN develop a design that gets people talking!
As a “Gen X” 30 something with a family, I would think I am a member of the primary demographic with the means to purchase the new offering. Hope to see this in production VERY SOON, before more market share goes to Ford, MOPAR or worst yet- imports. I am, by no means an expert, but it seems like waiting until some where around MY ‘09 will have GM playing catch-up again.
As for the production version, I’d offer some comments from a future buyer who has driven everything (sedan and coupe) offered from the various manufacturers:
Fit and finish will be a killer. I have noted a significant improvement from GM’s offerings in the last couple years in some lines. A clean, creak-free interior with high quality materials will draw folks like me in. Avoid the busy interiors of the previous Pontiacs (example ‘05 Bonneville) and the cheap feel of the Mustang and MOPAR offerings (Charger/300M). I can’t stress enough, the production model needs clean lines vice retro with quality materials (as opposed to the concept’s). I realize this car is not intended to compete with the BMW or Lexus, but I will admit the payments on my ‘02 would be easier if the car felt a bit more refined.
As for the exterior, the bold styling is a welcome change from (sorry) the more recent offerings from GM (save the Solstice). I did find it disturbing that a Chevy salesman (who I’ll keep nameless) today noted the concept looks like a “smiling Mustang”. Please look toward progressive vice retro. With that, I lothe the angular styling of the new Cadillac line, but love the direction Pontiac has taken- I’m still a fan of the G6, Grand Prix and the now dead Bonneville (just wish they were RWD/AWD).
Thank you for your time and dedication to this project. I hope I can provide something useful.
Warren Bowman
PS- Please include a performance RWD sedan soon; the Charger has been calling but the boxy/cheesy interior has kept a sales contract at bay!
gtjeff
I work at a Chevy dealership, this car would look very nice on the showroom floor soon, not three years from now. Rather than leave it up in the air, why not announce a production date? If the Camaro came to market soon, Ford would have to play catchup and add IRS to the Mustang.
Demand is shifting back to cars. The response here is a good indication of that. (You cant buy what is not available) If GM wants to kick it up a notch build: Nomad, heritage inspired Bel Air, Grand National, Fiero GT, Cien, El Camino. Some of the concepts you have at the new Heritage Center should be considered, like the Tandem. Your truck lineup is very solid,there is no reason the cars cant match their success. (Build what customers really want and no more model name changes either!!)
William
Mr. Lutz,
First i would like to compliment the entire GM team for this car. It looks simply amazing!
I will be on hand in April at the New York Auto Show to see it in person and i cannot wait.
I have owned 4 F-bodys in the past, mostly 3rd and 4th generation cars and am highly anxious to see this new concept make it to production.
I have shown the pictures to many of my friends and it has recieved very good compliments from all, even people i would consider die-hard Mustang fans, like my girlfriend and her family. Her exact reaction was, “I would definetley buy one of those, even though it’s a Camaro.” This comment came from a 26 year old girl who’s family has owned more than 10 Mustangs including her 4.
In closing, all i would like to say is please build this car. Please tell Rick Wagonner to fast track this car. You have a definete sale in me and possibly about 6 or 7 more of my friends if it is in the Mustangs price point.
Thank You,
William Palinkas
Paul
Thank you so much for the Camaro Bob, and please release it sooner than 2009?
Kevin
I will be out of college and looking for a car by the time this is made. I will buy one of its priced reasonable and not watered down like the new mustangs. I only ask that the v8 doesn’t make a bunch of crap mandatory…I’d like leather, A/C, and possibly a moon roof. No power mirrors/seats/windows/trunk, no butt-warmers, NOTHING.
Rhonda
I LOVE IT!! I think it’s beautiful. I will be very disappointed in GM if the car is not put into production. American cars, haven’t been this nice looking in a VERY long time. I feel this car would sell very well in the USA!
anthony_
Thanks guys…can’t wait to see what version comes of it comes out to Australia.
Jeff from Orlando
I just refinanced my house so I can free up my finances to buy this Camaro. If that isn’t loyalty I don’t know what is..
BUILD IT!
Matt
It looks absolutely awesome. I have only two gripes though, please, PLEASE do not wait to make this vehicle. Get started on suppliers and a plant for it RIGHT now. You are already losing sales to the Mustang, and the Challener looks alot more production ready than the Camaro, so im pretty sure that will be out before the Camaro, which will then be more lost sales. Why does Chevy need to be the last to the party with this car. I love the car and plan on buying one when I have the ability to, however, that is not the case for many other people im sure. Im sure many of them are tired of waiting and have already or will in the near future buy a new Mustang or buy a Challenger when it comes out. Build it and build it fast…make the Solstice look like it was mired in molasses for its entire development!!!
mark
Good job, but three years is not soon enough. I`ll take one in Daytona yellow.
Chris L.
I had to add one more post here Bob, sorry, but as you read all these posts about the Camaro concept (almost all positive) as I just have, I needed to post one more time….close your eyes for a moment and put yourself in our shoes…imagine spending all day on the internet, catching all the info you can from the unvailing to all the posts on the message boards, pouring over the pictures, the photoshops and the video’s and ask yourself, how many other cars (nameplates) make one do that?…..very few Bob, but of course you know that…..thank you again for a wonderful day in the life of a Camaro fan…..I hope I can get to detailing my future SS sometime real soon……
Matthew
all I can say is WOW! please build it.
Kyle Sweeney
The Camaro is truly a beautiful car, the only problem with it is I don’t have one in my garage.
Don Lee
Having owned at least one Camaro from each generation I was pleased to see some new life in a popular model that I thought was given up for dead. Hope that the vehicle will make it to production and I will be the proud owner of a 5th generation version.
Pedro
Bob,
Thank you Amazing Camaro!!.. Please put this out before the Challanger or you will lose thousands of possible buyers. This is what i would like to see…
base V6 (RS) $19K
LS2 V8 (Z/28) $24K
LS7 V8 (SS) $29K
you’d probably hit your 160,000 units with those numbers. If it comes out before anything else. Again thank you very much, but please don’t get our hopes up for nothing.
Rick Lupori
Mr. Lutz: Congratulations on the new Camaro Concept unveiling at Detroit, from what I have seen it was one of the most popular introductions in years. Even for this Blog - 173 comments before the end of the first day; think you have a grand slam homerun on your hands. Looks like Ed Welburn and the GM design staff got this one right from the start. If this is any indication of future products GM’s future will be very bright. A sub 5 second 0-60 with 30 MPG on the highway!!!!!!
Hopefully the new Camaro will have adequate rear seat room and reasonable cargo capacity; it will take some ingenuity, but can be done. Also make the entry and exit easier than the previous generations, if Ford can do it with the Mustang GM can do it with the Camaro.
I notice that this is the “Camaro” concept - is there a Z/28 concept?
Hopefully there will be a full line of the new Camaro: RS, SS and Z28
Now that the Camaro is done - where is the Bel Air, El Camino and Nomad?
And the extremely successful HHR needs a big brother with a V-8, and the SSR needs a sales boost. A panel SSR with 5 - 7 passenger seating will sell out easily. Please drive the environmentalist crazy by putting a hybrid drive-train in one. A V-8 powered truck with the styling of a 50’s panel capable of 30 MPG on the highway - priceless.
Thanks for your time and you are showing the critics that GM is on the right track.
Daniel
Having owned 3 4th generation F-Bodies, (2 of them SS), I say with as much enthusiasm as possible, BUILD IT!!!!! I will definitely purchase one of these cars as soon as they are available, even MORE so if there will be an SS version.
Korry
Mr Lutz, I have owned three Camaros. A 1968, a 1991 RS (bought new) and a 1996 Z28 (bought new and now my autocross weapon of choice).
The styling of this concept has lit a fire in me that those others never could.
Respectfully, here are my thoughts….
I LOVE the scowling rear tail light treatment. Keep it and keep the subtle duck tail spoiler.
I DO NOT LIKE the oversized exhaust outlets. Some attention is needed here.
I LOVE the bulging rear fenders. Leave it.
I DO NOT CARE for the gills slits. Don’t really hate ‘em but I would like a cleaner look. (unless of course you would like to make them functional on a road course burning Z28 model *subtle hint*)
I LOVE the glowering front end INCLUDING the grill and headlights.
I HATE HATE HATE that air inlet slit.
I LOVE the wheel design.
I DO NOT CARE for the cowl hood. It actually looks a bit out of place. It’s as if that and the inlet slit were added at the last minute.
I ABSOLUTELY DESPISE the interior.
How about a modern / heritage cockpit to match the modern / heritage exterior?
While I LOVE how the fender top gas cap looks, holding the hose away from the fender would get old fast.
Please move the gas cap down to the side.
Keep the creases. Keep the edges. Keep the arches. Keep everything else. Great job guys.
Now about the projected curb weight and that ZO6-like Z28 model…..
Brian Pace
I love it. I say it served you well in the past… make it happen again.
Jeremy
First off, the design team really did an awesome job on the car! Their passion and attention to detail really shows. I like the cowl hood and functional intake on the header panel (reminds me of the new z06). I’d like to see the front and rear brake intakes functional on a high performance model. Overall the rear and front of the car are perfect!! My favorite feature by far is where the roof intersects the rear quarter panel at the rear side windows (I own a 67 camaro so and that element looks familiar). I love the t-tops on my 01 SS, but would sacrifice them to keep this look. If you build a version to challenge Fords GT500 the let me know when I can pickup the keys at my local dealer!!!
Nate
As a car enthusiast I have to say I love it. I will own one if it is built.
Doug
173 comments the first day and counting. Jessica Simpson in a bikini wouldn’t have generated as much traffic!
I liked the fact that Mr. Lutz’s main concern is about the Challenger having more horsepower. Nothing about Toyota. Nothing about Honda. This is an American game and this is one field where they can’t play. They lack the heritage and it proves that, try as they may, Toyota IS NOT “America’s car company”.
Many of us are also getting sick and tired of the very obvious bias of the press. Asians automatically win quality and the Europeans automatically win handling. Even when the published results show differently. Then they base it on “subjectivity”. “Yes, the American (insert brand) won the time runs and skidpad and it also stopped the shortest. But, at the end of the day, Patti felt the moonlight showed the prettiest off the European (insert brand)’s hood. Isn’t that what its all about”?
This was written by a Honda owner, BTW!
Tim Poth
Mr. Lutz et al,
First, thank you for the blog which allows direct feedback to GM.
Now, I am very, very happy with what I saw yesterday. The Camaro Concept is just awesome. Having ‘Faith’ has paid off. All I can ask is that you convince whoever you need to, to build it. Chevy and Gm NEED this car and they need it now. The rumor of 2009 is much too far off. That is far to long for Ford to own the PonyCar market.
Yesterday, My wife and children and I gathered around our computer and watched the unveiling. My wife loved the car and my son, who is four years old, didn’t take his eyes off the screen once he saw the Camaro. We already have plans to purchase one, if it is made when we return from Germany, where I am currently station with the Army. All I ask is that you offer a few choices for V8 engines. I would love to get an LS4 with DOD and a six speed manual. Please don’t keep us waiting any longer! BUILD IT!
-Tim Poth
Mike
My first new car was a ‘69 Camaro SS 350. I love the “new” concept. Hope you build it so I can buy one!
Ethel T Olcsvay
Bob,
I’m amazed at the rapid and awesome feedback on this blog for the Camaro. There are a lot of passionate potential customers who have been waiting for this car.
My first car was a 69 Camaro and I absolutely loved it. This one looks much better.
By the way, I believe Mr. Wagoner’s first car was a Camaro. Perhaps you can use that information to convince him to have this car built sooner than later.
With cars like these in the pipeline, I predict that a turnaround at GM is coming; hopefully faster than we all think. Hang in there!
Keep the momentum and surprises coming.
I’ll keep these words of inspiration coming.
Ethel O
Mike
Wow. This car can start a rebirth for GM. The gas guzzling SUV craze is over. What do you have to prioritize over this? The Aveo? If you can build this bad boy with 400hp and 30mpg, you have an instant winner with the American public.
I sold my Camaro this year and bought a Honda Accord. I miss the Camaro. Badly. I graduate from college next fall and I hope the new Camaro hits the streets the following spring. I can’t wait to trade my Accord in for a REAL car.
If Chevy thinks the HHR and SSR are profitable but the Camaro is not, they are nuts.
Shawn Clark
Yes yes YES Y E S. I’ll take 1 SS in black, please.
Jorge Magaña
Just make this camaro please, I own a 2000 Z28 love it but this is something else.
Will
Build it, and you’ve got a guaranteed sale in hand right here.
Nathan
As sad as I was to see the Camaro go; this maybe exactly what GM needed. Being constantly bombarded by the media’s pro-Asian views, the great improvements you’ve made on the trucks and SUV just aren’t turning enough heads. The excitement of just the possibility of this vehicle returning to production, along with the new Z06 and Solstice, has had folks praising GM more than I’ve heard in a long time…. Well, ever. GM has really taken a large step in the right direction and this could be another. Put this car into production before the fire goes out. Please don’t water this concept down for production and then ask where were all the people that said they would buy one?
Comments:
Don’t like the angled front end but it does grow on you.
The tail lights have got to go!
The interior is nice but maybe a little over the top in retro design.
If costs most increase a little to make this profitable, do it. Make a better car and the wallets will open a little wider.
Would love to see t-tops or at least a targa top.
Regards,
Nathan
James
Stop wasting time on niche sports and GT cars and start building a high-volume full-size rear-wheel drive sports sedan from Chevrolet (Caprice SS) with LS6 motor to compete with the Dodge Charger!
shawn
i think the design is great. i’d love to see a smaller wheel size on a production model. i hope you folks decide to produce this car, i’d buy one in a heartbeat.
Jason
I love this car! Absolutely beautiful. I own a 1989 Camaro RS. I think it’s time I bought a second Camaro - namely, this one! I would buy this Camaro if they make it to production.
Hangsong Lee
Hi,
I never really thought much about american cars. Me and my friends are more import crowd. But I heard about you camaro and checked on it. I saw the video on you GM website. It a really nice car. Is it for real going to be made? I would like to buy one too when you have them ready. I think GM did really good job on the camaro. Thankyou.
Javier Gomez
BUILD IT, BUILD IT, BUILD IT!!!!!!!
You have finally re-introduced the Camaro it looks amazing! GM needs to hurry and offer this car SOON. Just look at the responses. The timing is right, the time is now.
Design_Kid
Camaro concept is AWESOME.
Just listening to that angry beast snarl as it crawled through the crowd at the unveiling seriously rocked!
This concept makes the Challenger and Mustang look dated and unrefined.
This is EXACTLY what the doctor ordered!!
As a newly employed designer at GM design, Australia and long time GM muscle car fan, i am now officially INSPIRED and excited!!
The message is clear:
-Build it and DONT water it down.
-Get the execution right, keep the price low and the performance HIGH.
-Get it to market as fast as possible.
-Don’t let it die
-Don’t rest, keep pumping killer concepts like this one.
-..and finally BUILD IT ALREADY…hehe!
If this one makes it to production I promise you I AM buying one & keeping it for life!!
Richard Essex
Real GM DNA and a truly aspirational car. Wow! But CAN they build it? Wagoneer seems almost panicked by the overwhelmingly positive reaction - not that he would have any reason to know how to deal with it. GM has ‘improved’ to the point where many of the cars it builds are not an embarrassment to own. But Solstice and Corvette aside, what cars does GM make that people really lust after - like they do the Camaro Concept? When are GM cars really a consumer’s first or second choice? I think even Cadillac’s impressive makeover looks dated now. Domestically all the excitement is at Chrysler and then Ford. GM is way behind. GM lead by the spreadsheet long before Excel existed and it will be the death of them yet. Maybe management should ask the UAW for permission to build the car or just make sure Toyota builds it when they takeover …
Eric
The car looks great, has just enough retro to it, maybe a little work is needed on the front grill, still not sure, I will say this,if this exact car is made I will buy one. It will sit next to my 2002 Camaro SS, 1996 Impala SS. The car should be built and I don’t see why it should take anymore than 2 years to get it into dealer lots. Great job on the design, GM is going to need a lot of years of good product to make up for the bad product from the late 70’s,80’s and early 90’s.
jake
I think it’s beautiful. Concentrate on building that wow factor into the bread-and-butter line, though. I’m a proud owner of a Malibu Maxx and I love the car, but the Malibu and its ilk need the star power you seem to only bestow upon niche vehicles.
Leftlane News
Camaro Concept Video Podcast; Camaro to get Z06 engine?
In the first video podcast on General Motors’ official FastLane corporate blog, the Wall Street Journal’s Detroit Bureau Chief Joe White interviews GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz at the North American International Auto Show about the design and…
Evan
Bob, want to know how to knock the socks off the public and the press?
1. Develop a well-engineered, beautifuly-designed vehicle.
2. Engineer it within inches of being production ready. Pass it through the clinics to read public feedback.
3. Show it as concept in January. If the job was done right, public and press reception will be positive.
4. 3-4 months later, announce that it will be entering production by the end of the year.
Granted, I know there are many timetables that automakers need to run by in this day and age, but there’s also an unbelievable amount of bureaucratic BS that impedes progress. Particuarly within the ranks of GM.
In my mind, the styling of the Camaro, the Enclave, and the 900s shows me that you’re on the right direction.
Now, you need to focus upon making product development within the company much more efficient.
There are numerous examples that I could name. But I think the best thing to do, Bob, is to randomly go around and visit engineers in all of your groups (Truck, Small & Large Car, APE, Powertrain, etc), and ask them what the biggest roadblock is in their day to day job.
I’m sure they’ll affirm the fact that it takes a week to do a job that used to be done in a day.
This isn’t productivity. This is sheer bureaucracy. This is why people criticize GM for being slow and late to the party.
The changes have to come from within, Bob, in order to even have any inkling of hope of quickly developing saleable products that captivate the public’s imagination.
J-Rod
As a modertator on LS1tech.com, we’re VERY interested in seeing a RWD platform using the GenIII/GENIV V8. There has been a lot of excitement about the possibility of a Camaro replacement.
I hope Gm learns from Holden and puts decent interior in the car. The GTO interior is head and shoulders above any U.S. spec interior.
I hate to be ugly, but the the only problem with the GTO was ever letting anyone from Pontiac put that awful grille on the car. If they had made a clean break with the car, and used the current Holden Export grille, along with a standard Holden front end, I think the car would have been a bigger hit. I’m still thinking about buying one of the 2004 GTO’s that are still MSO and sitting on a few of the lots around the country… Yes, there are still new 2004’s sitting around.
Anyway, I am a die hard Camaro lover. I own a numbers matching 67 SS350.
Do I think GM did a good thing buy paying homage to the Camaro of old? That remains to be seen. It almost like 1964 again. Ford comes out with the Mustang in 64 1/2, and it isn’t till 1967 that GM has something to counter it. The 67 Camaro was a wondercar. Can the 2008 vehicle do that…. I hope so….
The new Mustang has been a big hit. If GM can keep the insurance nazi’s off the car by making tons of 6 cylinder “girl cars”. Then this can be a successful platform. The issue with the last gen was as the cars got better sales numbers dropped. The car was dated, and too expensive to insure. Plus it wasn’t popular with secretaries, etc… where the mustang is.
The car can be retro, but it has to attract buyers. The Mustang is not only retro, it looks darn good too, just on its own. If the Camaro can do all that, it’ll be a winner. To be honest, I’m really, really pulling for it to be a hit….
Honestly, I’m excited by the thought of a new pony car. It’ll keep this site, and the GenIII/GENIV aftermarket pumping. I think the naysayers will be swayed when they see the first “blacked out” 2008 witha set of nice wheels, a “hockey stripe” down the side of the car with a set of true duals and big lumpy cam….
The only thing I am on the fence about at this moment is the frontend/grille. I am still a bit more partial to this concept.
I think it has a stronger tie to the first gen camaro. Other than that, I’m very excited about the Camaro.
C’mon GM make us a winner. Make it easy for us to work ona and modify, and watch out Ford and Chrysler….
Bruce Sherman
Please read this guy’s comment AGAIN:
“Offer great engines including the L6 and LS2/LS7 V8s….Keep the weight down and don’t change the show car, and GM’s looking at a major hit!”
Bruce Sherman
Oakland, Oregon
Scott Becker
I am absolutely speechless about the Concept Camaro. The design is flawless. Produce it and I will buy it.
Michael
Wow, I would smack down some cash for this. Best GM product I have seen. Good job!
Dan
Regarding T-tops in Camaros:
QUOTE:
“… federal roof standards haven’t changed in decades. If the F-bodies passed fed standards back in ‘02, they will still pass in ‘09. I don’t recall any changes in the FMVSS roof crush standard in the pipeline (although it is needed). Though, the IIHS may find reason to complain in thier testing.
When it comes down to it, no roof is more compromised than a convertible, and they are still hanging around.”
Actually, FVMSS 216 (roof crush) is currently being revised with a proposed increase of two thirds. And even without it being enacted, an automaker cannot design to “just the standard”. That’s a sure recipe for losing lawsuits.
So what does this mean? No T-tops, and it’s not just GM, it’s all automakers’ cars.
Oh, by the way, convertibles are exempt. (the courts assume you have to know that if your car has no roof, you don’t have any rollover protection)
Dave
Wow, I’m amazed by all the messages here. How could GM not build this camaro? I’ve been reading a lot of responses to this concept camaro over the past couple of days. Most people just love it and some pick on certain aspects of it. I personally couldn’t ask for anything else. I own a 1968 camaro and I would love to put a new one right next to it.
jay
Camaros were my first and second vehicles. Third was a Trans Am. Hopefully, we can see a return of one or both of these American icons.
Sid
Fantastic!! I want one! A new Camaro with this or very close design would really look good next to my 68 Z-28 and my 02 SS. It should be offered as soon as possible. Make mine with exactly the same drive train as the concept. Thanks.
The TrueTalk Blog
Conceptual Lutz
Bob Lutz made a blog pit stop yesterday to call attention to the Camaro concept car unveiled at the Detroit Auto Show. Looks pretty cool, and the GM Fastlane fans seem pretty impressed in the post’s comments. The news
BIG JOHN
This car is awesome and need to be built by spring 2007. Oh and please if you do build this please leave the exterior the way it is now. I know to often Bob we make a sweet looking concept and the totally change it to something that in most minds is less appealing.
BTW if you build it I will buy one.
Brian
Bob, the concept is fantastic overall. I would buy it if it was built, all I need to know is where can I send my letter expressing my desire to buy this when it reaches production! I can’t wait to have it sitting next to my ‘95 Z28 racecar in the garage.
BT
As a father, I have absolutely no practical use for a muscle car and have never really been a “gear-head”…..but this car is so friggin’ cool. Just make sure you have the LATCH system in the back seats please and I’ll start looking for a car seat.
James
Bring it back!!!!! GM needs a sporty car to compete with the new challenger and the new mustang. Love the looks and the inside. I would buy one in a heartbeat.
ron
I think the new camaro concept is a huge step in the right direction. It’s nice to see that the gm design team has been unleased to design a great looking car. I always felt gm design had the capability but was held back by the powers that be.
I have wanted to know from gm design if there is a basic cost difference to build ugly sheet metal or good looking sheet metal?
My friends and i have been having a long conversation on
if gm has any car guys left who actually can remember the old z/28’s and the passion they inspired?
These type of exciting cars are what gm needs. It will also rekindle grass roots racing. I would love to see a return of the old trans am series. Maybe we will see some old super stock drag racing again. I even think cars like this will inspire kids to learn how to work on their cars and be interested in the techincal repair fields.
I think gm has a hugh opportunity in front of it. As they say in sales timing is everything. You need to bring exciting cars like this to market as soon as possible. People do not like to be teased and say oh by the way it will be 3 more years!!!
Thanks again for the great concept now get busy and get it here sooner then later!!!
TJ
This car is the exact car chevy needs to beat ford and their mustang…bravo and do not make the mistake like dodge did with the charger..
Drew
I love this Camaro!!!! I’ll be in the market for a new car in about 1 year. Please put this into production as soon as possible and I will buy one (preferably a SS).
David Esquire
I’ll take 2- any plans on a RS version with hideaway headlights?
Bill
The new Camero looks great.
Please build the Camero soon!
GM did a great job on the Solstice, so it could be done again on the Camero.
Recommendation: Build at least 5+ variations: Camero, Firebird, LS2 engine option, Hybrid, and Hydrogen Fuel Cell option - With all those options you will be able to appeal to all those Schizophrenic types which you described, and thereby increase sales above your break even point of about 140,000 vehicles.
Redwood
The biggest concern amongst my friends (most of which have owned 1 or more F-bodies) is keeping the weight down. We know GM can do power (LS2), but weight is the enemy of handling. The new Shelby GT500 is listed as 3920lbs in the latest press release. That is completely unacceptable for a performance car. Sure it can probably go down a drag strip quickly with that much power, but it’s going to handle like a boat. The GTO handles a bit boat-like at 3750lbs. We need a Z28 at 3400lbs at most. I know with the back seats and being price conscious it won’t be as light as a C6, but it needs to be kept within reason.
Bob, since you worked at BMW and the concept has IRS, I know you’re interested in more than just performance in a straight line. Just make sure it can beat the live-rear axle Mustang at the track/autocross as well as the drag strip.
Being excited about the 21″ or 22″ wheels is not a good thing. That just means more weight and anything beyond 18″ or 19″ doesn’t help handling. Not to mention insane cost to replace tires. What I’d like to see in ‘09…
Base Camaro V6 (3.9L 240hp+), $22K with no options. 16-17″ wheels. 6spd manual standard, 5 or 6spd auto optional.
Z28 (6.0L 400hp LS2), 6pd manual & 6spd auto) $26-27K based with cloth seats, manual, etc. 18″ wheels standard with 20″ optional. Something light for racers. A luxury type package available with leather, sunroof, for the show offs.
A couple years after production starts, an SS model. Punched out LS2 for 450hp or maybe LS7, plus beefed up (and lighter) suspension and wide 19″ wheels standard (I like the widths on the concept). The LS7 might make it too pricey, though. Don’t price yourself out of the market. $32K.
And another thing, I love the styling more than the Challenger (too retro), and Mustang (too retro and cluttered). The front end isn’t quite perfect, but it probably never could be. The rest of the car is flawless. One other thing, don’t forget about us tall guys! I could never own an F-body, because at 6′7″ and can’t fit.
On the Topic of ‘08/’09 GTO, put the price at $30K and keep it standard with the leather, add auto A/C, optional sunroof (I know one person that didn’t buy an ‘05 because of no sunroof). Don’t try to compete in the same price segment with the Camaro.
The last thing GM needs is more “me too!” nearly identical cars from several divisions.
Doug A
The concept looks great, but for once let’s see the concept go into production instead of producing something that looks like a different design.
This car [as is camaro concept] will stand out on the street and the strip, no one will be able to deny that this car is truely uniquie.
On a side note: what kind of weight are you looking at aiming for? 3500lbs? less?
mikeb
Bob,
Magnificent! Great job! Today has been the resurrection / epiphany all the Camaro disciples have been waiting for. Build it and they will come.
Comments: The styling of the hood and front end is awesome! But why is there a little air intake at the leading edge of the hood???
The roofline also looks a little low and the rear is kinda pudgy. Just need to tweak these a little…
And my only advice - don’t wait 3 years to roll out the production version. Thats way too long and this concept will look dated by then. 2007 would be a great year - the 40th anniversary.
Tapscott's Copy Desk
Camaro Concept Shows Its 1969 Again!
First reaction in this corner is that it certainly captures the spirit of the original. I love the tail lamps, the extreme coke bottle-shaped fenders grab your eyes and won’t let go and the front end is, well, clearly inspired by a 69 Camaro SS.
Ryan January
Mr. Lutz,
First and foremost I would like to thank you and the entire Camaro team for at least bringing us the Camaro concept. In a time where there are many people losing faith in the affordable RWD performance coupe’s from GM, it gets harder and harder to not look at competing products.
I’m a cradle Camaro lover… My father was a Camaro lover before me. I caught the bug early. My first ride home from the hospital was in a ‘68 SS. I grew up reading issues of Hotrod magazine and dreaming of the General’s latest offering. Since then, many Camaros have come and gone within our family. One of my goals in life was to get an education and secure a profession that would afford me the opportunity to purchase a Camaro directly off the show room floor. That dream came true when I took delivery of my ‘02 SS in Sept of ‘01; A car that was ordered to my exact specifications. Delivery was a bittersweet moment; knowing that this was one of the last of the great F-bodies to roll out of St. Therese. By the time my children are of driving age, the Camaro would be nothing more than a mythical legend for them, much as the Chevelle, Nova, and much adored GTO were for me. Since production stopped, I’ve been waiting to hear about a comeback, and as I said, it has become increasingly difficult to disregard my brand loyalty and purchase a different performance coupe. With my ‘02 recently paid off, I will be saving the funds for what could likely be my next Camaro.
I believe the 5th generation Camaro would look excellent sitting next to my current SS. I have both the means and desire to own this car… the ball is now in GM’s court. Given the opportunity to purchase this car, I would be honored to take delivery of a vehicle from the first model year.
Thank you for your time,
Ryan
Lyle Pollard
Man, this Camaro concept is awesome. I watched the live debut online yesterday and got absolute chills.
MAKE THIS CAR. My wife and I will buy one…maybe one each.
Cap'n Pete
Welcome back CAMARO!
I currently own a 2002 Z28, used to own an ‘81 Z28, and my Dad currently has a ‘73 Camaro (as well as previously owning a ‘69 SS, ‘76 RS, ‘78 Z28 and a ‘77 Formula).
I think my blood type is Camaro!
I would ABSOLUTELY buy the Camaro concept that you’ve shown. Maybe the interior could lose some of its “retro” look and be more modern? (there’s enough heritage/retro on the outside). Otherwise, great job, great car!
But please don’t show up ~3 years late to the party? There’s no reason you couldn’t get that car out to dealership lots some time during 2007 if you chose to. The MUSTANG doesn’t need any more sales.
Tom W.
Chevrolet’s concept Camaro looks drop dead geogeous. Will it perform as well as it looks? The home team needs a winner. Another Stingray III? I hope not.
Step up to the plate and bring it, don’t sing it, Bob!
I’ll be waiting (check book in hand).
Adam
The new Camaro is my next car. You have me hook,line and sinker. Please get it into production as soon as humanly possible. Great Job!
c trost
This car is sweet looking from the outside! … the tail light shape was a bit odd to me, but as i see more detailed pics, it is growing on me. As many have said, the interior may need some adjustments, but do not let that stop you from producing this car. I like the concept of the gauges in the console, but they may not be feasible for safety’s sake. the radio and climate controls, it sure looks like it would be cost prohibitive to build the display into the trim like the concept pictorals show. I’m not advocating a impala-style center stack, but something stylish and simple is the ideal here. I would characterize the interior as this: the concept has a retro interior, with a modern twist, when it should really have a modern interor with a retro twist
The other floating idea out there is that of t-tops. i could go either way on this, but it would almost have to have a greenhouse similar to 3rd gen’s or so, with wrapping rear hatch, and no b pillar windows… I’d rather just have a convertible. The big wheels are cool and all, but making this vehicle affordable for the masses needs to include thinking of things like wheels/tires. your average joe isnt going to want to deal with 20 and 22 inch tires, especially on the same car!
maybe 20’s on the SS model, with 18’s on the rs/z-28 levels. oh… and none of the LS and LT crap on this baby… MUST stick to the original trims on this one.
Kenneth
Wow, the sheer number of comments on this subject should speak volumes to the execs at GM. There have been more comments on just this than the last 5 blogs combined.
That said.
BUILD IT, BUILD IT NOW.
The world cant wait another 3 years for a competitor to the Mustang/Challenger. I understand that you would have to figure out what platform to put it on, what plant to build it in, etc. However I know that GM has the resources, excess capacity, and a parts bin the size of Texas to do it. I PROMISE you, if you build it, I will buy one.
Mark N
I have owned four Camaros over the years including the 99 SS I have now and I will buy this car as is if it is built. Chevrolet needs this car as a “poor man’s Corvette,” the role Camaro has played for almost 40 years. The styling is great, and if the weight is kept down, it will be a killer street and race car. A top line SS priced around $30K is perfect, but don’t wait too long, this needs to be on the market NOW!
TallChief
Mr. Lutz, build this car! Deliver to us a modern intepretation of America’s best muscle car. I command you and your GM colleagues to go forth and produce this vehicle.
James
Bob
I know what car helped cause a $1.60 rise in the stock. I know what car will be on the cover of the next Motor Trend. The Camaro prototype is a bulls eye, a home run, a long bomb and a hat trick. I was not one of those bloggers who asked for a Camaro but now it exists I must say it is beautiful. This Camaro is a real American car, something GM had forgotten how to build for a long time. GM needs more real American cars. You talk about Pontiac and Buick retreating, well the reason is they stopped building real American Pontiacs and Buicks. Real American cars died out because of CAFE. An auto writer in one of the magazines wrote that it took the Aussies with the GTO and the Germans with the Chrysler 300 to remember what a real American car was. This car makes me proud to be an American.
Anybody who loves American cars wants to see this car built. Enough said.
I recently read some comments you made about Pontiac and Buick which made me worried.
I care about these brands and I hope GM does not intend to let them atrophy. Dont forget that a few years ago Cadillac had the same perception of being a stodgy older persons car that still lingers with Buick. Cadillac is turning around and Buick can too if you expend the effort. GM needs a near luxury vehicle to compliment Cadillac. Buick should share more platforms with Cadillac so it can be rear wheel drive as soon as possible. GM needs
real American cars. GM needs rear wheel drive instantly.
GMs problem is that it neglected cars for too long and relied too much on the
SUV gravy train. All the automakers are guilty of killing off coupes. GM needs high profit margin cars to replace the loss of SUVs. The coupe being the most beautiful and personal expression of car design is the most likely to be an impulse purchase. Aesthetically nothing compares to a coupe. SUVs are big boxes. Coupes are poetry in motion. The way to bring back coupes is to build compelling sedans like the 300 and Charger and then offer a 2dr version.
I care about GM because a country that cant make its own cars is a third world country. I also care about GM because of the great cars it built a long time ago in the years before I was born and in the years before I could drive. The Camaro and
the first Nomad show car
are the type of cars that once made GM great. The front wheel drive sedans of the 80s and 90s are the cars that brought GMs market share to 26%. Build compelling rear wheel drive cars and at least you will have the product in place for a comeback. Fix your labor and health care costs and GMs stock will be invincible.
Do not retreat into a shadow of your former self, bring back the glory days not only of Chevy and Cadillac but Pontiac and Buick as well. The Camaro and Nomad of 2001 prove GM has great people working in product development.
Kevin V.
OK, I have owned a ‘77 Trans Am, an ‘86 Camaro, and now a ‘95 Z28. I LOVE f-bodies. But this Camaro concept has me entranced. A beautiful car. Well done, modern, but you know what it is instantly. I can sit here and say that I personally will buy one, when they go into production (probably the second year, knowing my luck they will all be presold like the Solstice!) So PLEASE GM, Mr Lutz, make this car. Because you know Daimler-Chrysler will make the Challenger, and Ford has already set the pace (again) with the Mustang. I feel this is the opportunity GM needs to show they CAN be the leader again.
JE
Way to Go GM!! Wow is all I can really say to describe the Camaro Concept!!!!!!! Its simply unreal!! Please, Please, Please bring it to production!! I will be in-Line waiting for it!
Lee Cooper
Just one question, how do you want the check made out?
John
I have been a long time GM fan. I have always stuck to GM vehicles. I have told my wife that GM needs to come out with a vehicle similar to the first generations Camaro’s for a while. Althought I like this initial concept release I believe they could do better by not having cut the roof so much. They are going to cut out a lot of customers that are tall and just won’t fit in one or that just don’t like the new short lived HotWheels cut off roof trend. I think it is a short lived fad that won’t catch on. I think they would do better by extending the roof. Also the lunar front end vehicle look has got to go. You would think that from their loss in the market on the modern trucks etc.. They would realize that the moon lunar vehicle look is not selling. Look at the market share loss on the sell of the trucks. I have had many friends tell me they won’t by a Chevy truck currently just because of how they look. They want a mean looking truck designed to look like it is ready to attack a job, not one that looks like a moon vehicle. In my opinion they have lost out in big to Chrysler and to Ford and foreign manufacturers in the truck series due to the drastic lunar look instead of a mean looking vehicle designed to be rough and tough. Look at the front of the new Chevy trucks and the front of the concept camaro and tell me you don’t see any similarity.
Paul Eccles
Exterior looks good. The interior gauges especialy near the shifter is too retro. I like that the solid rear axle is not carried over. I hope it would get stability control and have active handling alo Corvette for the V-8 model. HID headlamps should be an option at least. The base engine should be the 3.9L V-6 in the Pontiac G6 GTP.
Jason Rogers
Once again, GM will be late to the party. 2008 IF the public likes it? You need it to be on the lot now. GM continues to make me shake my head.
Louis B
I am saving my money now to get a nice american rwd coupe like the new camaro but if they take to long I might have to go with the challenger. I like the camaro better. I hope they make it soon. The V8 with displacement on demand was a good idea and I believe it will make more people step up to by a V8 car.
g hughes
SUGGESTION - Now do a retro-styled firebird or chevelle or 69 camaro and youve go both bases covered!
sam
The thing looks PERFECT. If it looks like that when it reached production, and a V8 version is priced to be competetive with the Mustang GT, I will drive a Camaro again.
Jeff Laack
If GM doesn’t build the new Camaro it will signify everything that is wrong with GM! Build it! Or give up and let Toyota become the largest automaker in the world.
Alex F.
It would look wicked in my driveway next to my ‘68 Camaro. Don’t drop the ball. PLEASE BUILD THIS CAR.
Lifelong Pontiac Fanatic
It is a gorgeous design. Please build it, and unlike the jellybean GTO, I will buy it. This is the styling direction that the GTO should have gone in.I understand that a front fascia redesign could only change so much, but if done correctly, could have garnered the support you are currently enjoying with the new Camaro. This car is beautiful, and will be mine if you produce it.
One question, If Pontiac is supposed to be the sporty division, why would Chevy have a complete SS line with many performance vehicles, and yet Pontiac is struggling to have a few? Isn’t that talking out of both sides of your mouth?
Thanks for the Camaro, I just guess I will have to switch my loyalties from Pontiac to Chevy.
Bri
250 comments in two days…..
If this board had a volume control, your ears would be bleeding.
Can you hear us yet?
I am a Ford guy, and will be until I hear this is making production.
Give me a 300 hp V8 and a 5 speed stick, even with cloth for less than 25k, and I’m trading in my Mustang.
John Parker
The Camaro looks great but I have one Question… What will you provide for the Firebird fans like my self? Please don’t tell me that the current GTO is supposed to be the answer.
patrickmichael
Great job. I’m disappointed that it won’t make it to the streets until 2009 but I hope it points to some new directions fro Chevy design - I love the short, pointed, wide egg-crate grill and the new take on tailights. Quad round units are so overdone.
Gery Sutherland
Nice job. Kudos to the designers and engineers who put this vehicle together. It captures everything that could be right with GM. Keep fighting and have faith. If you produce unique and original American vehicles instead of trying to beat the Asians at their own game you will regain your lost market share. For too many years the big three have tried to create appliance cars. Americans want distinctive products. Witness the success of your SUV’s. Keep the hits coming and produce this car. I will be waiting in line and my local Chevrolet dealer to sign on the dotted line. Thank you Mr. Lutz…………
avtar
Bob all I have to say is you are an awesome guy and have lots of business smarts.. The Camaro is the wiked beast it should have always have been don√®t change anything accept for the grill. Also give us the options of each model right away base- Z-28 - ss so we can get the one we want . The real problem I have is the GTO is still to ill recieved you guys sold way more Firebird and Trans Am models than the GTO get rid of it and bring Back the Firebird…. LOts of us are waiting….
DW
Looks good but you need a Firebird to go along with it. Those two are one. Just change the grille, hood, rearend and interior a little and call it a Firebird (it worked in ‘67 and produced the better looking car of the pair IMO).
snafu-ss
i have been a huge fan of GM products all my life. i’ve grown up with them throughout it as well. the camaro is a car i especially love and have a high desire to own someday.
im very happy that the design is not pure retro as the challenger, and is more modern than the mustang but still has an edgy and awesome look. just finish off the great looks with an awesome interior and even better powertrain and theres no reason it shouldnt be a hit.
i just wish it could be here sooner than 2008 or even 2009…the RWD car seems to be making a small comeback, and i just wish GM had its camaro and possibly others to bring to the fight.
Patrick Bunzel
I had a 91 Firebird and loved it. I would love to see this new Camaro. But that interior IS AWFUL. It is the worst interior I’ve seen in my lifetime (I’m 23).
Alex
i’ll be honest, it’s growing on me big time, but here’s my wish list if it’s gonna get me out of my 04 gto:
1.something different in the taillight department, those aren’t doing it for me in the least.
2.i don’t want to see the price tag on those tires. I’m cool with a 17 front/18 back package or similar.
3.give me some choices on the front grille please - not really digging the milk crate or the giant bowtie
4.no “knight rider” hole in the front of the cowl.
5.finally, price it in the mid to high 20’s. If that means no LS2, that’s cool with me. I’d be really happy with a ~300 - 325 hp 5300 or thereabouts, that does 20 city 30 highway with a 6 speed. If an 04 gto can do 17/29, i don’t see why that would be impossible.
6.convertible?
That being said, price is going to tell the tale later on, and while i’m a devoted gm buyer for the last 11 years, the challenger is better looking IMO.
CLEAN
Bob, you MUST build this car! As close to the concept as you can keep it. D*MN what a nice design! I was there at the unveiling, was on the front row of guys as you first drove out. I doubt you saw, but my wife, as well as many others were in tears over this thing! It is all about passion with this car, and I hope you got a small taste of that passion on Monday.
Legends Never Die…
cybo
Way to go GM! The exterior is dead on, and overall the car is a beautiful concept. I do expect the interior to change for practicality and cost reasons, but overall get this car out there ASAP! Push up the date as early as possible! 2009 MY is a bit far away. No one is taking GM seriously, when we all know they can pull off greatly executed vehicles at good prices and high quality. Now’s the time for GM to sneak right past Toyota, Nissan, and Honda back into the POSITIVE limelight it deserves!
ssmith
Looks Great!!
Fantastic job on design!!
Significantly more than “just-retro”, (i.e., Mustang and Charger). Not just back to the 60’s and 70’s, more like “Back to the Future+Plus”, but it’s a Camaro. (Work on the Hollywood-line!)
I showed my son … he can’t wait. I had to say, “Not before Me!”
Any chance of a “father and son” drive-off at the plant? It clearly shows the age-appeal.
Can’t wait! … Let’s get it on the street!!
R Aldridge
I will buy this car. Period.
Bill Geary
BRAVO GM!!
You made a car that all the people I work with have gone absolutely ape over!! One thing I ask is that you PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, keep the car a true hardtop!
That’s one styling element that is sorely missing among American cars. The profile of the car is especially gorgeous with all the windows rolled down.
The interior is a little too glitzy for my tastes, but I’m sure you’ll change if you decide to build it…………………speaking of which……. please don’t disappoint us Mr Lutz, BUILD THIS CAR PRONTO!!!
Dustin Bassi
I Would buy it either way. but if i were to change somthing it would be the grill. Possably offer a cowl hood option? hockey stripe? Special order LS7? maybe have 3 v8 options. 5.3 “327″ the ls2, and LS7. a solid rear axel option would be nice too. Thanks for listening
Seth
GM, I am all for your survival and renewed emphasis on quality and dynamic car designs. However, I don’t think this is the right direction for the Camaro. Please stop the retro bandwagon here! The new Camaro needs to be a little more forward thinking. This simply feels like a “me-too” response to the Mustang, just like the HHR seems to be to the PT Crusier. The Camaro could still compete with the Mustang, but it should do so on its own terms, not as a retrofied version.
heintz
I have been driving for 40 years. When I saw the Nomad I decided I would buy my first American car. Of course it appears you are not going to build what would be my perfect car. But the Camaro looks like a close second. I want one and I want it now (unless there is a Nomad in the works).
Peter
My family owns 3 Camaro’s and a TransAm. If this concept is built, we’ll definitely add a few more Camaro’s to the family. But make a decision ASAP, or else the competition will have a lot of time to out do this concept.
Bill
Bob,
Nice work. GM nailed the exterior design. I love the short deck, long hood appearance. The seats look good and I like the GM logo on the seat belts. The dash is a little odd, and I’m not sure about those gauges located near the gearbox. I’m glad to hear that the V8 option will have displacement on demand. Hopefully, a 5 or 6 speed auto will be available as well, in addition to a V6 model that can post sub 15-second quarter mile times.
Beverly
I love it!!!! i have been holding out for the camaro to be reborn. My husband was given a ‘69 for his 16th birthday and he would love to give one to his son for his 16th, but don’t wait to long he turns 16 next year. Oh yea, I need 2 one for me and one for our son.
Jim Wahl
Bob,
The car is beautiful. As a current owner of a mint-condition ‘94 Z28, there is nothing more I would love to do than put this car in my driveway as well.
I like the interior, however I cannot imagine that this would ever make production, it seems very expensive and detailed. The Camaro needs to match the Mustang in affordability, that will be key in the car’s success.
If this car is going to take some time before it hits showrooms, fine. Just be sure you use that time to do this right, like the C6 Corvette and the new Tahoe.
Great job!
EveLyn
Mr Lutz if I had my way YOU would be the CEO of General Motors!
BUILD THIS CAMARO! ASAP! For God’s sake 2009 is too long to wait, we need this car in mid 2007 as a 2008 model. DO NOT water down the exterior of the concept for manufacture keep the exterior as is. Dont listen to those who want to “tweak” the front end this car was inspired both by early Camaros AND the F22 Raptor.. the pointy nose STAYS!
Mr Lutz Please build this car I dont care how you do it just get quality in and powerful engines.
Jake Bean
GM is on fire.
With the introduction of the Pontiac G6 and Solstice, the new Corvette and all other high octane cars…I belive in a full throtle GM comeback.
I own a 92 Pontiac Firebird and plan to for the rest of my driving days, and I have fallen in love with the F-Body cars. Why stop with just a few great new sporty cars guys? Let’s bring back the Camaro, let’s put out a GTO with meaning, let’s put GM back on the map with these legendary names. You guys are heading in the right direction, all of us GM diehards belive and are begging you, bring back the Camaro. Bring back the Glory. Put all these Asian cars back in there places. The Camaro is a giant step, and we’ll be waiting for more.
(P.S if you really loved us, you’d bring back the Firebird too…)
Matt
I just got back from the LA auto show and the new Camaro is bueatiful. I am the target demigrafic (29 yo, male, engineer, live in Ca) for this car, and I say: “Build it and I will buy it.”
Mark
I have been shopping for a new car to replace my 94 Camaro Convertible, found nothing comparable (midsize sporty 2 door) that GM is building right now. Please build this car! This is exactly what I have been looking for from GM. Great job with everything, just awesome! I was considering the Mustang, but I’ll wait for this Camaro if I know GM is committed to building it. Build it and they will come. Thanks Mr. Lutz…………
Britton
I love the design with the exception of the front end which I don’t particularly love, but I don’t hate it either.
Pete
Camaro LS 3.9 V6 260hp = $22k
Camaro RS 5.3 V8 320hp = $26k
Camaro SS 6.0 V8 400hp * $32k
I will add an SS in 2008 as soon as you decide to build it, and add it to my collection.
2008 Camaro SS (future)
2006 HHR
2004 GTO
1994 Z24
Sox Fan
Its a nice looking car. I hope when GM decides to make it that they not make the nose of the car so pointy. Other than that, put a quality effort into building it and it will sell. Look at the TEAM CHEVELLE reactions on their forum, and they say the same thing about the nose. Do something about the nose of the car and you have it. Also, for us muscle car guys, it does not need IRS. Just give us good horsepower and a rear wheel drivetrain that can take the abuse.
Allen Bujak
As a current owner and daily (even in snow) driver of a ‘99 Trans Am WS6, I’m so THRILLED at this car!! I have not seen a car I liked this much in years! I loathe retro, but love heritage design. In my perfect world, Pontiac would have a version of this car that borrows from the ‘77. A Camaro this good needs a Trans Am (not GTO) to run with….no doubt it would save Pontiac.
James Elliott
I am going to see the Camaro concept in person in LA this weekend but I can honestly say I love it already. I have owned 4 Camaros so far and am begging you to build this car. It’s truely amazing.
D Molnar
This car is a good connection to the original and probably best looking F-body. Oddly, I think the car looks better from the rear quarter than from the front. That weird scoop in the hood is not agressive enough, and sorry, but get rid of the bowtie in the grill. Just black that thing out!
I have to agree with some other comments that the car is a little late and GM’s inability to get out their own way and push the car to production is typical GM behavior. If this car had come out in 2003 following the last 4th Gen cars, it would have been a huge hit. GM’s cars of late are so bland looking (come on, the GTO????), this car would have generated brand excitement, not just Camaro excitement.
Please lose the little gages in the center console. That look is too retro and too bad! GM interior design was not a strong point back then - don’t bring it back! From a driving position, you can’t even look at those gages.
Keep the big wheels. Those look good.
Lastly, give me options for the car I want! When I bought my 1994 TA, the wait for a 5.7L V8 with a 6 speed was about 9 months. An automatic could be had immediately. That sucked!!! I’ve heard story after story from people I know that went with Mustangs because they couldn’t get F-body manuals.
E W Green
Body: B+
Engineering: A+
Interior: F
Smooth it out, give us a modern interior, and send it on. America’s waiting.
P.S.: How ’bout a 4-door RWD sedan with an LS2 next?
Alex Wilson
Okay, it is a nice step but you guys missed the dance, while you where designing your new ‘Vette (VERY HOT I MUST ADD) Ford got the jump on you. Unless you can sell this car for much less and give it more power and mileage the Mustang will continue to pound it at the register. For many years you guys had the better of the two, but still got smoked in the sales. Now that Camaro has been gone there are even more ‘Stangs than ever, I think you guys are in a lose-lose situation, where you can make this car take a loss and make these 270 people happy. If the car is any better than the ‘Stang it would have to cost more because its hard to match them HP-for-Dollar (Except the Vette) and if you charge too much more it will be in ‘Vette range, while if you charge to little it will take away from your Solstice sales. So realistically you guys would have to make it in the 25-30,000 and I’m sorry but in this case better late than never is not true. You guys are making a huge mistake(FORD THUNDERBIRD) if you put out this car thinking that the very small number of Camaro enthusiast will put you in the black because that is all that will buy this. Need I say SSR.
Bob White
3 years ago, this would have been a show stopper. Today’s Mustang looks cleaner, and the new Dodge Challenger (especially in SRT8 trim) blows them both away. In typical fashion under Waggoner’s watch, GM is way late to the party again.
EL
Mr. Lutz,
You have to do this car. Your words about “circumstances” are just hogwash. Only great product will save the company, not nickel-and-diming health care, benefits, or cutting personnel. This is one of those GREAT products.
What a shame if GM can’t come up with the resources to do the Camaro. There’s much more honor in going down swinging than retreating into a corner until you bleed to death.
Michael Walling
Bob if GM is unable to immediatly begin plans to build the Camaro then there are greater problems with GM than any of us have feared.
There is no need to prove the market, Ford has already done that. General Motors is now known as a slow, aged company that is no longer able to understand what consumers will purchase, and react quickly. To ponder and delay on another product is to only feed the flame.
John Smith
COUNTDOWN TO BLACK PLASTIC? Please no!!!
levoncmo
Ever since I had seen the 4 gen camaros I had a sudden feeling like it was this car that I would want to drive, ever since that day I hadn’t felt the same for any other car, until now. Mr. lutz I am an owner of the hummer and the 2006 corvette. With this new camaro you’ll be filling my driveway with it.
Built it, go for it, I garanty it wont cause any damage, if anything it will help gm in some areas.
Scott Blewitt
Please please please build this car!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rick Lupori
Mr. Lutz: The more I look at the Camaro Concept the more possibilities come to mind…..
A 69 Trans Am would be the easiest even though I personally lean more towards a Solstice based Firebird, but one off of the Camaro would be just as sweet.
This Architecture could be utilized for the next Monte Carlo (70-72) and Grand Prix (69-70) especially the SJ model, both of these models had a restrained class to them. They may not be as aerodynamic as the current ones but they have more presence.
A GTO (68-69) would also be an obvious model.
An interesting option would be to offer some of the classic models for a limited 2-4 year run, the Buick GSX (70), Chevelle (69) for 2 years and (70) for 2 years, El Camino (69) and even the 442 (70) would be a good one but not sure what division it would be for - maybe a limited Oldsmobile run offered through Buick dealers after the GSX run.
For the mass market a 55-57 Bel Air full line of 2 Door HARDTOP, 4 door sedan, Convertible with retractable hardtop, Nomad wagon with “Quad Coupe” style rear doors (a feature that could be offered in a 2 door post model) and even an El Camino version in both 2 and 4 door (again maybe the “Quad Coupe” doors). Add the option of AWD and start cranking them out.
Finally as I mentioned in a few comments, an SSR based panel van and Sedan Delivery with extended cab style rear doors that open 180 degrees with 5 to 7 passengers and optional AWD.
Every model mentioned above could be derived from the Camaro architecture and would create a buzz similar to the one GM is experiencing form the new Camaro. They cover all market segments (sport, luxury, family) and have a very large following of dedicated fans. GM really needs to start taking care of the customers who have stood by them through thick and thin.
Utilizing the same architecture should keep the finance department happy and offering some models for limited runs will create a “need to own” feeling. GM is one of few companies with such a rich history of classic designs and as many fans recall, these classic models usually only were offered for 1 (one) year, so there is more mileage in the styling. Classic design never goes out of style.
As you have picked up from the comments the Camaro is popular across the marketplace - young and old. I showed the pictures of the concept around the office and some friends took them home to their spouses and all reacted positively.
May the Retrolution begin!!!
If you can’t build the Camaro in 18 months, at least get some of the others out there.
I cannot thank you enough for the opportunity to share ideas with you directly and as always keep up the good work.
Chris Neville
This concept is absolutely stunning, it has to be one of the most exciting GM concepts that I’ve seen in a while. It manages to incorporate retro cues into a modern design, and it works perfectly. It would be a shame if it does not reach production. Now all we need is a new Firebird…
Todd Seigel
Bob, looks like a great car, kudos to the designers/engineers. Hopefully the production (please) model will have the punch to match the looks. I think I could even talk the wife into letting me get this! Make sure there are lots of option packages to check off to “individualize/personalize” the car, a point that the modern Mustang forgot. Thanks for bringing the muscle back to Chevy. I’ll order mine with a T-roof option and 6 speed, please.
Jim B.
camaro is awesome, gm definately has to put it into production. and maybe a firebird… pretty please!
julius d means
please make affordable v8 standard kind a like electra glide standard no vents on fenders dont want it to look like mustang
ToeFur
Not quite what I was expecting. Not retro looking enough. I dont like the grill or the tail lamps. I was amazed when I first saw pictures of the new challenger. When I saw the new Camaro I wasn’t impressed. The side body lines are cool though.
Danny
I absolutely LOVE this car. Not only that but so does my wife. If GM builds this car I WILL buy one. Just please make it happen.
John Kuran
How bad can things be at GM if they’re going to bring back a car name they killed less then 3 years ago? At what point will this “retro” styling end? Will GM bring back the bloated boat cars of the 1960s/70s? Will Ford bring back the Edsel or even the Model T? At what point will American car makers run out of cars to recycle?
When I was growing up, my Dad bought Buicks, Chrylser and Fords. But his last car was a Toyota Camry. And wow, the difference between the Camry and Regal was substantially in favor of the Camry. Now, when I look at American cars, I cringed. Butt ugly, antiquated PoS stuck in the stone age.
Where’s the innovation that made this country great? The Japanese made dual overhead cam engines while we’re still making push rod V8s. The Corvette, supposedly the top of the line sports car, has a 4 speed automatic while the VW Jetta and Passat are coming out with the DSG!! And to add buzz to its lineup, GM brings back the Camaro. Chances are it’ll suffer the same fate as the GTO.
C’mon GM. Get your act together and build better, sexier, innovative cars. If you can’t adapt, evolve or innovate, you’re going to become extinct like the dodo.
Ladd Hartnett
Mr. Lutz
The new Camaro looks great from every angle. I was a little leery of a retro design theme, but this is an excellent combination of old and new. Judging from the other posts, this design really evokes a true love/hate response. My only concern could be the price. The market may not be too friendly to a $30-32KCamaro. Like some others, I would forgo some of the power to keep it more affordable. My line up would look like this:
RS 3.9 6 cylinder at 20-22K
Z-28 5.7 LS-2 at 24-26K
Build it and they will come.
Mike
The car rocks buil it I am going to buy one
james colvin
I am a Chevy dealer and we need this car now!
Robert Zurick
Absolutely have to get rid of that Knight Rider scoop in the front, add a billet type grill, a modern interior, keep the weight and price down and the horsepower up and I’ll park one next to my 88 IROC convertible.
Terry
Bob…
This is the car you HAVE to build to show GM is still in the game!
No Pontiac variation is neccessary. All it would do is canibalize the Camaro sales. Pontiac has their new image car: the Solstace.
Godspeed, Bob and 10 more horses than the Mustang!!!
J.C.
1. Freeze the design as is! Don’t change a thing. You came close with the Solstice, but the head-lights on the production version of the Solstice look like tacked on afterthoughts whereas the prototype looked perfectly fluid to the body. Don’t change a single detail about this Camaro… otherwise, don’t even bother. This car will have presence on the street as is and I for one will not pay for a watered down caricature of a hot looking prototype!
2. I don’t care what anyone else says about the interior… it screams character just like the interiors of 1950’s and 1960’s cars did… character thats been missing from interiors for over 30 years now!
3. Think summer of 2007… 2009 is way too late for this car that should’ve been available already. GM’s way behind the curve and that’s getting very annoying and frustrating to a die-hard GM fan that’s starting to waver towards other brands that are delivering what their buyers want and in a more timely fashion!
4. T-tops or glass targa like the Corvette. (and design them so they don’t leak like a sieve within the first 100,000 miles!)
5. Price it below $30,000.00 out the door for a Z28 model. The 4th gen F-body was getting too darn expensive for the less than stellar quality you were pushing on us. In its time it should’ve never been more than a $22-25,000.00 car for what one was getting! And expecting $32,000 for a GTO that isn’t even offered with a factory installed sun-roof is a rip-off!
6. Just kill the GTO altogether and bring the Firebird back!… because if the 2004-06 GTO is all the better you can do… the Goat should’ve just stayed dead after ‘74! With no thanks to you we’ve lost the Firebird now too… one of the few marques to survive as long as it did over many others and you just destroyed that heritage!
A new 5th gen F-body could’ve been ready to go to replace the 4th gens, but you guys at GM had to dilly-dally around with other projects that took the resources that could’ve kept the F-body alive. Don’t blame the buying public for the F-body’s faults. You could’ve fixed the quality and aggressively marketed it better and turned the image around. Don’t keep repeating the same mistakes over and over again!
BTW - More RWD and AWD cars too! The Impala and Grand Prix should’ve been switched over a couple of years ago!
J
There goes the 57 Chevy project. When can I order a black 2009 Camaro with a 427, 6-speed, cowl induction hood and 21/22″ grey-center 5 spoke vintage wheels?
camaro lover
I love the car and I want one. I wanted the mustang concept too then they screwed up the car. I have no desire to own one. I can say if u build this car very very close to the conccept (I know the interiro has to change) I would get one hands down. I love it, its aggressive has enough of the vette but its not as classy and thats fine. it screams movie night…burger and shake afterwards. Its an awesome car. leave the wheels on it too, if u can’t do the 20 and 21 do 19 and 20, u must leave them big. with the charger srt-8 coming with 20 inch wheels I don’t see why we can’t either. do a z28 do a ss model and do a good lookin v6 model and it will sell hands down. I’ll end with this, by 2009 I look forward to having a Tahoe SS and camaro SS in my garage. Welcome back chevy.
Jim and Connie
We saw the Camaro concept at the LA Auto Show and we love it.
Suggest you slim down the rear end a bit because it looks too much like a Mustang from the back, but everything is great!
Will place an order for one when it becomes available.
New_Mexico_Sunset
What do I think of it? Wow. I was thrilled to drink my coffee saturday morning and see some photos of it on the web. I’ll have to bookend one with my ‘02 Z28, which I had to order after reading on CNN.com that production was ceasing. I’ll garage the ‘02 and drive this.
After having some time to digest the design, however. I would like to see a more comtemporary interior. Many on some GM Enthusiasts websites tend to agree. I rented a new ‘Stang when I was in Las Vegas to take a performance driving school. Even though it turned heads in almost everycar I passed from Vegas to the school, I think Ford overdid the “heritage” aspects when they continued it into the interior. The exterior will get you too leave a noseprint on the drivers side window, but the interior should be more contemporary.
I could see some painted metal on the interior dash which matches the exterior, and maybe some material in the seats which match the exterior color. You know, race inspired seats. I also did not much care for the “sea of gray” in the concept. Camaro interiors need to be black. And hopefully with some metal and rubber scattered throughout.
The exterior can hint to 1969, but the interior should welcome the occupants into the 21st century, warmly.
All in all. I am thrilled. Thanks.
dustycat
GREAT - except for one thing - fix the grille - it looks like a monte carlo not a camaro
oh and another thing - build a FIREBIRD! I NEED A TRANS-AM!
Greg
I have been a Chevy fan since I was an early teenager.I’m now 40. I own 2 Camaros a 69, and a 00SS. I have only owned Chevys. I am disappointed in the new Camaro. I wish they had made it more retro. I like the new Mustang, and the Challenger. The Camaro must change id\f they want me to buy one.
Edward Alexander
I had a 1985 IROC as a first car - I loved it and drove it nearly 7 years / 110,000 miles - - I would buy one of these tomorrow in black with the biggest engine you have - preferably LS7 as a Z28 option ?
Major cool car - many of my physician friends who drive Porsche 911′ etc were oohinhg and ahhing over the one on the front page of the Wall Sreet Journal this AM —> if you can sell one to this crowd, you have finally broken the perception that GM makes boring products, etc. . . good work . .
Where can I send a check? Make mine black -
Edward Alexander, MD
Drew Wood
It’s about time the Camaro comes back! If GM were to build this car and price it right I would literally kill someone trying to get to my local chevrolet dealer to order one up PLEASE build this car!
Martin
IMHO GM’s mantra for the past decade or so seems to be ‘Follow the leader - we’ll be a day late and a dollar short, but we’ll go wherever the competition leads’
The styling is neither tough enough or pretty enough for my (aging baby-boomer) tastes. IMHO, it isn’t brutal enough to be a ‘69 Z-28, and it isn’t pretty enough to be a ’secretary’s car’ as the many thousands of those 6-cyl Camaros were.
IMHO, the 2009 Camaro is just as clunky in it’s own way as the Chevy HHR is. I guess the term I’d use is ‘industrial’ styling.
IMHO it has too few retro styling cues that reflect the 1969-Camaro. It has a lot of modern day car styling language, most of it profanity! Why not just put 24″ wheels and body-kits on EVERYTHING and be done with it???
The whole ends up being awkwardly and significantly less than the sum of the parts.
Exaggerated side-sculpturing leading to the over-blown rear-wheel arches, sculptured rooftop, almost-familiar hood bulge, too-sunken headlights, too-small roof side-profile, a too-big and too-curved grille (is it smiling?), and too-large too-squarish tail-lights to name a few.
They desperately need someone who UNDERSTANDS the design language of the 1969 Camaro to massage this concept!
PAT MAYO
Hi Bob,
I definitely like what your doing. I glad to finally see some exciting vehicles from the General. I have been with GM from birth. I came home from the hospital in a 63 split window. My major complaint with GM in the last few years, has been not doing the vehicle right when it comes out. The Fiero got a good suspension and a V6, after the decision had already been made to kill it. The 96 Impala SS, Gm finally got it right the last year, after the decision had been made to kill it. Hello 7 out of every 10 Caprices was a Impala. Thank you John Moss for a great car. The SSR got the good motor and a manual years after it came out. Give the Public a great vehicle from the start. Give the press no choice but say its a fantastic car right out out of the box. Don’t take several years of teasing us to finally get it right. Do it right the first time or don’t do it. Example the C6. Do this with every vehicle, and Gm will again be USA1.
Gm dealers also need to decide if they want to sell alot of cars or a few. My local Pontiac dealer sat on their first GTO for months because it had a price of over $40,000 on the car. I was told they wouldn’t bargain on the car because they were hard to get. They were lined up out in the lot. I ended up buying a Tahoe because I could get a better deal. I think the dealers have finally figured it out. A buddy of mine just got one for $27,000. At that price you won’t be able to keep them on the lot.
Another friend works at Sport Chevrolet in Silver Spring, Md. They just sold a Z06 for $25,000 over asking price. Do they want to sell alot of cars or just make a killing on a few. I always thought the way to make money was by volume.
Thanks Bob for returning the excitement to Gm products. I’m ready to place my order for my new Camaro, provide the dealers not going to try and rape my again. Gm hasn’t had much for me to desire lately unless it was a Cadillac, Corvette, or one of the trucks.
My garage presently holds a Tahoe, Yukon, 96 Impala SS, 69 Camaro, and a 70 convertible Deville. I’ve always been a faithful customer. Please give me a reason to continue.
Thanks Bob. Keep up the good work.
Pat
Rich
While it is exciting to see the camaro again, I am extremely disappointed with GM. A 19 yr old, Kris Horton, blew my socks off with his computer designed retro look that is out of this world. Now GM brings out what looks like a 300m with a half baked Chevy “Camaro” front end. I guess I expected more from GM. Kris has it right and GM should take note. Is it any wonder why Ford and Dodge is spanking GM in this department. Ford and Dodge will continue to win this race in my book. So long……
Steve Meder
I love the new Camaro and you’re making me think about adding it to the 04′ GTO in the garage….
ANIKA
First I have to say
LOOKIN GOOD GUYS!!!!!!
Having owned both a 94 Camaro & a 97 Camaro SS, I must say that I have been waiting a very long time for this. The Camaro concept is beautiful. It’s beyond anything I have ever dreamed. Please don’t change the look, it’s perfect just the way it is. Three years is a long time to wait but if the production model is exactly like the concept, then it will be well worth the wait. So reserve one for me now. Silver, V-8, and fully loaded please.
Keith Short
MR. Lutz,
This car needs to be in showrooms & on America’s streets as soon as possible. Bring it in for a reasonable price (V8 starting under $28K) & it will fly out of showrooms. Make the build quality the best of any Camaro, & they will sell themselves.
By the way, my 2005 GTO & I thank you for bringing the GTO back to glory.
Mats
Love the design except for the nosejob, would like to see a double round headlight setup for a slightly more classic look. Everything behind the front wheels is pure porn…
Frank D
I like the Camaro concept better each time that I look at it. If it’s available when I’m ready to trade in my 2004 GTO I’ll definately purchase one. Please just make sure to put an interior as nice as what the GTO has in it.
Ray
I think you guys did a great job on the new Camaro Concept. It is definitely a step in the right direction. Its edgy design is much better than the late 4thgen Camaros and the currently bland looking GTOs. I can only hope it makes it into production basically unchanged (;though the taillights seem a bit off); as I would definitely be interested in one.
Kees-Jan Homsma
Mr. Lutz
Love the concept. If this was to make it to the showrooms i hope that the dog leg remains as is, wheel to fender gaps remain minimal, front & rear fascias stay as shown and most importantly give it to the best quality plant in North America.
Oshawa & the CAW needs this thing and will make it a world performer in quality and productivity. Hopefully a Sedan and a few other flexible models can be built along side it. 150000 Units is a big number for a sports coupe.
sucram
The following was published on http://www.thecarconnection.com about the redesign of the Camaro concept.
“We felt good about it but we didn’t feel great about it. Sometimes it needs someone else to look at it,” said Lutz. “Rick Wagoner said ‘that looks just like the old one and why would we want to do that? Let’s get some modern flair into it so we’re not repeating the past.’
Didn’t GM do quite well with the Camaro of the past? Isn’t that why they went the ‘retro’ route with this design? Isn’t that the whole mission of the company to re-live the glory days of having a high percentage of the market share?
The modern flair desinged into the Camaro concept is nice but like all other concepts, I’m sure this will fall victim to the same fate as the concepts of the past. Cost cutting and therefore ‘dumbing down’ the design. The G6 would have had more customer appeal if it would have looked more aggressive like the concept. I can’t wait to see what the Saturn Aura looks like now that the bean counters have chipped away at it.
Good luck GM, many of us here in Detroit depend on your survival.
I guess if you can’t beat the foreign automotive companies, most of the out of work engineers and designers can join them.
Reactor
The interior is a real knock out, absolutely spectscular. IF the exterior were as new and fresh as the interior, I would be putting a Camaro in my garage. The rear 3/4 view is great but the front end is timid and unimaginative.
Cheers
Hurricane
I love the exterior of the concept Camaro! It looks great!
Having previously owned a 94 Z28, a 2000 Vette, and being the current owner of a 2006 Vette, I highly recommend moving this baby to production!
Give it a modern, not a retro, interior, and make the space inside usable. Make quality and reliability a priority.
Lekan Oyefeso
Being an employee in the auto industry (Delphi), I can understand that there are other priorities that come before producing the Camaro. But, being an employee in the auto industry, and also being one of those who has lost faith and excitement in GM’s product, I can tell you that if GM does decide to put this car into production, I could see this car being the first step in establishing faith, once again, in GM to all the muscle car enthusiasts who gave up on the bowtie and turned to Chrysler or Ford for their driving exitement. If the production version doesnt stray too far from the concept car, this car could inspire that spark needed to get potential buyers itching to give you their money in exchange for one of these new generation masterpieces. If GM is content with Chrysler and Ford dominating the muscle car buyers market, then leave this car in the conceptual stage. But if GM wants to turn over a new leaf and perhaps convince people that they should be excited about their product, then maybe you should consider doing what it takes to make this dream a reality.
Greg "opie" Hughs
I drive a 2002 Z28 right now. If this is what the new Camaro is going to look like Im buying the new Challenger.
Chris 96 WS6
Mr. Lutz,
I was one of the 250 Camaro enthusiasts invited to witness the unveiling on Monday. I have to say the car exceeded almost all expectations, despite the fact most of us had seen leaked pics days before. I understand corporate politics and posturing, but you absolutely MUST build this car. That is, unless you want to risk the wrath of thousands of rabid enthusiasts you just finished throwing a big meaty bone to Monday morning. Give us this car and we will give you back a profitable GM.
Erik Levasseur
Mr lutz, this car is simply amazing! I am a gm salesman in Canada and we heard all kinds of things lately from customer thinking that GM wuold bankrupt soon.
This car is a proof that the company will turn profit again soon.
As you might know, the japanese are doing very good up here, so we need to adress customers concern about quality by showing how we improved over the last 5 years or so.
Send the message and they will listen!!
The Camaro is a good start, but we need also a good v6 for the people who don’T focus on performance but still wants a nice looking car.
rob
I think the concept is ugly and a week attempt at trying to make it look like the 69. If you are going to go retro go all the way and not do some half a** attempt like what was done here. The Challenger concept is 1000X better looking and if produced will get my money. I am a life long GM buyer except my last vehicle purchase and my next will be a Dodge or ford unless you start designing and build cars with some excitment.
Mitch Cmunt
Looks great. You know what would even look better? A Firebird concept? Is that going to happen? You can’t forget about the loyal Pontiac owners. :o)
Dan Neu
To me, it looks like a knockoff of the Mustang and Challenger. I’d say it’s the best looking interpretation of the 3, but I honestly think the Chevy SS was more exciting… definitely stood out in a crowd!
Raul Rivas
Mr. Lutz congratulations on your team hitting a home run on this Camaro. I’m a proud 99 Camaro SS owner and I have been waiting for this day for a long time. The sooner you can get it on the streets the better. But I will be willing to wait like that your team builds a good quality Camaro from the start. As soon as you start selling it I will put my order in. God Bless
Kees-Jan
Love it.
Just make the interior less retro. The under 35 crowd may not like it.
6 speed manuals in all trim levels too.
ADE
To the GM/Chevy Team,
I just want to say Thanks!
I watched the webcast and got really emotional when that Camaro rolled down the lane and onto the stage.
My heart was beating so fast and my eyes began to tear.
I remember my 1997 Camaro Z28 Convertible and at that very moment told myself
“You will own that car”
Only you can make this happen for me - Build this car and build it soon!
I cant wait to get to the auto show and see the car person. For now I will just watch the webcast for the 1-millionth time.
Job WELL Done!
Anthony
Cliff
Now THIS is a great design. Frankly I was worried you forgot all about the cars. I am still looking for a Pontiac. I drive Chevys but man I’d love a new Firebird to go with my 67 Drop Top HO.
Jared
Don’t build it.
GM needs a RWD sedan and an economical, attractive compact far more than it needs a gashog like this pig.
Dan Abbene
I was there at the inveiling amongst the 250 enthusiasts. I feel very fortunate to have had the honor of being there to see this spectacular event. The car is much better looking than anyone can capture in a picture. I would like to see a change in the grille area and the scoop looks out of place. I love the cowl induction hood and other first gen design queues. If you build versions at low prices with a V6, can carry groceries and will allow a car seat the back, then I don’t see anyway that car could not sell in a big way. I look forward to actually driving the production version and adding it to my GM stable. I can’t wait to try on a road course.
For the record, I hope that GM understands what an impressive service they get from Scott Settlemire. The enthusiast community is a huge voice for GM and he keep it positive. You probably have much more a jewel in a faithful employee that lives his job than you can understand.
Please build the car, I will buy one for sure.
Cliff
Just had to add a couple more notes for everyone out there complaining about wanting this car by 07. Reality check here. There is only 6 months left in the 06 build cycle. Change over is in July - August( No matter who you build for). This car cannot possibly show up and be any good before the 08 model year even if we used compressed timing and dumped all the cash in the world at it. Then you could not afford the thing either. an 09 Model is actually the fall of 08. Really only 2 1/5 years out. The real miracle would be an April 08 release. That puts Camaro in prime time for summer sales and a 2 year turn around. Don’t kid yourselves, to build it right it WILL take time. And wouldn’t you rather have a Great car rather than a RUSH-TO-MARKET Recall sled???
Great Job GM.
Jim Hornsby
I am one of your customers. At age 23, my first Camaro was a 1 year old 1969 Camaro with a 327ci engine. (You could feel every seam in the concrete on expressways at most speeds but not at 109mph) Next I ordered a new 1976 Camaro LT with a 305ci engine. (Lots of compliments on that red interior/silver exterior.) Then off the lot, a new 1985 Camaro with a 2.8 liter engine. (It was under powered and I never really loved it but I drove it 15 years.) And last I ordered a new 2000 Camaro with a 3.6 liter engine. (Lots of compliments on this one too. Red exterior/gray interior) All the new ones came from Robke Chevrolet.
As you can see, I have not been buying racecars. I liked the size. I liked the sports car handling, ride, feel…. I liked the exterior styling.
I downloaded the 3 pictures from your website and I like your Camaro concept car’s exterior look. The interior is too retro. The instruments and controls MUST be functionally modern. If you can make them appear a little retro then so be it. My 1969 Camaro had lousy climate control systems and controls and I don’t want them back. Give me 2000 Camaro climate controls PLUS let me recirculate inside air. Again if you can make them appear retro then so be it but NO vacuum controls. Give me a 5 way electric motor controlled driver’s seat and cruise control as options. (I am 5 foot 6 inches tall and the standard seats don’t have enough adjustment to suit me.)
You will need one option package for those who want the muscle car and another for those of us who just want the size, body styling and sports car handling.
If you are not selling Camaros in 2 or 3 years then I will probably be driving a Mustang. My children will be shocked.
kirsten
Hmm. Compliments first. GM clearly is leaps and bounds beyond most Fortune 500 companies when it comes to blogging. I wonder if it has dawned on GM yet that they can creatively use blogs INTERNALLY to develop working business libraries and best practice tools for teams?
Now for a tongue-wagging. It’s disappointing to note how desperately GM is seeking to connect with women as customers — and yet you only have 1 woman’s blog link in your blogroll (Charlene Li - a good friend to re:invention, inc.).
Hey GM - Gimmee a G for Girlpower!
kindly,
kirsten
ceo and founder
re:invention, inc.
“marketing for women-led businesses & the companies trying to reach them.”
http://www.reinventioninc.com
the blog:
http://reinventioninc.blogspot.com
Greg Lewis
There is a void from the GM stable in cars that anyone under 40 would be interested in. The Camaro would help fill that void. I love the new mustang and the challenger concept. the camaro needs to be more sporty like the challenger but it is a great first run. Love Lutz. too bad he is hamstrung by the General’s financial woes and politics. I’d love to see Chevy and Pontiac recover.
Mike
BUILD IT BOB!
3900 V6 and LS2 for sure, LS7… WOW! The first two for sure right now
The styling is amazing (best thing GM has done in a long time!)
I own a new GTO and love it, I have defended you to the end on this car (we owners understand why it is what it is). So please, please, PLEASE do not disappoint me, BUILD THE CAMARO SOON (2008 at the latest)!!!!!!!!
I will be the first to buy.
Troy
Great job and about time. I work for G.M. and can’t wait to own one. Let’s not let it slip by.Time to start moving.
Gary
I have a comment, quit dinking around and build it
Since it is still the competitor to the Mustang, why not do it just how it was done back in the day? They put theirs out in 65 (and 05), you put yours out in 67 (and 07!) Makes sense to me!
Joe Enke
As an owner of a 1968 Camaro, a 1995 Formula, and previous owner of 3 other 2nd and 3rd gen camaros, I have to say this one has the look down right. I love my firebird but the standard gripes are understandable. Doors too large, especially since the back seat is useless anyway. Cheap interior, but in it’s defense it is rugged, and the huge windsheild making engine work difficult.
Still if this car could start out with the 4.2 inline six with 270 HP for around $20K(Iknow it won’t fit right), then step up to a turbo version 380HP for the RS $28K and then an LS2 400Hp Z28 for $30K, with an all out Z06 427CU in bad boy 500 HP SS for around $38K, That would at the very least get me walking into the showroom the same way the CTSV got me looking at Caddies again.
P.S. the Autoshow in Motion is the greatest thing GM has ever done. I really enjoyed trying out the new cars including the competition without dealing with salesmen.
Mark
Please don’t go too retro on the interior. Think classy modern (350Z, GTO, Corvette…) rather than overdone retro (Mustang)
Other than that, the car looks great! Can’t wait for it.
John
Great concept! It’s great to see GM still knows how to flex its muscles. I can’t wait for the return of the F-body. But please, please consider a Firebird too. There are just as many of us Firebird faithful out here as there are Camaro….Don’t forget about us!
Nate
You have to make this car. How could you go wrong with putting this car into production? There are so many people out there that are loathing for a new Camaro, myself included, and this concept looks great and sounds like it will perform really well with the 400hp. Please get this car into production.
Kevin
I guess I’m one of those that says GM can’t build anything exciting (except for the Vette).
There are things I like and don’t. This concept has a great side profile, and the ease of ingress/egress looks to be much better than that of the 4th Gens.
I do however not like the front end and rear tail lights at all. If they rounded the front a bit more and made the tail ligths actually fit the back end I would love the car on the outside.
The interior leaves a lot to be desired, IMHO. It just does not work at all. No way, no how.
I know plenty of people that like it just the way it is though.
My big fear is that GM will wait to long to build the car, oh wait.. they already have.
Please do yourself a favor and build the car before Ford & DCX run circles arond GM with RWD sports cars.
PacerX
Your Camaro heart and soul is a man by the name of Scott Settlemire.
He took the barbs when Camaro died and no one else from GM was around to listen to the complaints.
He held the precious resource known as “The Camaro Community” together.
He took his personal time, even when you had no car to sell, to keep the name on the lips of enthusiasts everywhere.
He was the spirit that those of us in the Camaro world could cling to when the future looked so bleak.
He took the jabs when your “30 year nap” comment hit the presses.
He is the one that rounded up 250 enthusiasts for your unveiling.
He kept the faith.
That’s passion. That’s a car guy. That’s who General Motors needs intimately involved in the new Camaro.
Mark
Please build this! GM needs this!
John P
I echo Gary’s sentiments on timing but review your history and you will recall that a Pontiac sister car was introduced at the same time. Firebird can live again.
Art Schroeder
Hi Bob,
I was one of the 250 enthusiasts fortunate enough to attend the unveiling. A big THANK YOU goes to Scott Settlemire, who in my opinion deserves a gold plated 5th gen and a jar of your bitter orange marmalade for the auction at the Camaro/Firebird Reunion at the NCM in Bowling Green for his contribution to GM and the F-body community, and GM for making it possible to be part of this historic event.
The Concept? I like it. Assuming it translates well into a production convertible and is available with a full complement of features (the Trailblazer SS option list plus HUD) I’m ready to take delivery of my Hugger Orange ‘09 SS convertible in the fall of ‘08.
David Ferm
If Chevy builds it, I WILL buy it. As mentioned elsewhere, don’t change the design from the concept. This car has “attitude” just like the ‘68 Malibu SS (the best car I ever owned) I had when I was a kid.
Kurt
Bob,
I have owned four Camaro’s over the years. My first car was a ‘73, second a ‘76 third a ‘77 and my latest is a 01 Z-28 M6. I still have the ‘77 with a stroked smallblock that runs in the 11’s. The 01 has a few mods and runs in the high 12’s.
PLEASE make sure the high horsepower models have a differential that can handle some abuse! I hold my breath every time I dump the clutch at the strip with my 01 Z. I need to shellout $2500 to put a decent aftermarket rear in the car before I dare push it harder.
As far as model offerings go I would like to see a full spectrum of v-8 engines. For production line simplicty I would even bother with a v-6.
Base car 4.8LGen III DOD
optional 5.3L 275-325HP
z-28 LS2 auto or stick 400 HP
SS 6.2L 425-450 HP
COPO - LS7 DRAG STRIP KILLER, give it a live rear right from Srange or Moser (12 bolt)
AC radio delete…
Make mine a COPO
Thanks,
Kurt
David
That front grille is a little narrow for my tastes. Make it a bit wider. Make the rear fenders a little beefier, and make the hood slope down at least a little bit so you can actually see something from the driver’s seat. Make the car look a little lower to the ground (make the door height shorter and the window taller).
Get the car in the same price range as the Mustang, and keep the interior the same or better than the Mustang. No need for refinement like the GTO, just something better than the Mustang.
And make sure that motor can be modified. If it is, you’ve got yourself a future GM customer. If it isn’t, I’ll take my business to Ford. Don’t disappoint me.
edwin
I want one! build the car !!!!! we will buy it-this is a promise,I will believe me you
Awesome job
MB
I think that this new camaro is absolutely amazing and very beautiful. It looks fast just sitting there. I have been a fan of GM for more than half my life and I’m 22. GM you need to build it and you need to make it very competitive in terms of price. Its gotta be around the same price as the “Stang” But make it handle and ride better. I know a lot of people who only drive imports, and would never consider american. I have converted a few to GM and they all like this car and I just love. So please GM build it ASAP. There is no question whether to build it or not. Just build it and they will come. But keep the price low.
Jeff
I love the looks of the car!! The interior could be toned down a little. I will looking forward to production. 2008!!!!!
Scott Farrington
Bob:
Please give us this car quickly. I am ready to buy. Forget the t-tops, won’t work on the design, but a folding hard top would be great - a-la G6 Convertible. I was in Detroit when you rolled her out. Stunning in every detail. Now build her quickly while the momentum is here. SSR - I know was a complicated build, but three years from concept to fruition…it was old before it was in the showroom. Interest had waned and people bought elsewhere.
Tone the interior down a bit, make it a USEABLE 4-seater ( I already have a ‘vette, don’t need another two seater ) and keep it priced reasonably and it will fly out of the showrooms. As for the female demographic - my wife rolls her eyes when I show her a car I am interested in - her reaction here - ” Holy Sh*t! When can I have one???” That is from a woman who could care less about cars.
Cap'n Bill
Nice job on the Camero Concept. I’ve owned three of them and enjoyed them mucho/
Don’t mean to rain on your parade but don’t overlook the need to bring your warranty program closer to “world class”.
Inadequate so far, even on Cadillac. Your bean counters have done a great job in predicting when parts will fail…just after warranty expiration. Maybe you need better parts. To compete successfully you surely need a better warranty for all your new cars and trucks.
Michael McLean
First off I’d like to say WOW and hats off to GM’s designers for knocking this one over the centerfield wall. It’s a long time coming. Regarding the concelt, I see a clean break for the Camaro from what it became. A return to it’s roots without being overly retro. I see first gen, of course, but also some second and third with a touch of Cadillac Art&Science. Good job. Very good job, indeed!
To me the concept just screams CAMARO… GM, you must find a way to build this car pretty much as is, much sooner than later. It should now be a priorty…. for positive image making alone if nothing else. I don’t recall the new C6 vette having this kind of buzz. I have never seen the GM boards so alive as this past three days.
But I digress; I love the exterior style. My gripes here are precious few. I am not so sure about the gunslit intake above the grille, nor do I feel the gills in front of the rear wheels are really necessary. They clutter clean styling for me. At first I felt that simple round taillamps would be called for, but I kind of dig the afterburner glow. I say build it with all the creases and curves intact.
As for the interior, it looks great to me. I like the dash overall but I feel it just needs a more contemporary guage cluster that will incorporate all the guages instead of relegating most to the console. Nice seats and details.
If GM can bring out a true pillarless (B-pillar, anyway) hardtop Camaro with four rolldown windows like the concept, I would gladly forgo the T-Tops that I would otherwise like to see make production.
Once again, very nice job…. build it and I for one, will come. I have been a F-body (and GM, in general) fanatic since I was a wee lad. It’s great to be excited about GM and Chevrolet again. This is what a ponycar should be!
DRM
All I want to know is when and where do I buy it! I want one now!
Bobbie
Dear Bob,
The unveiling of the Camaro concept car was a tremendous thrill for me! I fell in love with Camaros at the age of 8 in 1968, and this concept car brought tears to my eyes.
This car has just enough retro to excite me, but it is also futuristic. I most definitely plan to buy one, and I think you need to get it out there ASAP.
I know of several young people in their early 20’s all the way to people in their 70’s that are clamoring for this car to be built and soon!
Please use your influence to get things “rolling”. A big thanks to Scott Settlemire who listens to Camaro enthusiasts.
BUILD THIS CAR!!
Bill
What this car needs:
* Lower it 1.5 inches.
* Clip 4 inches off the belt line. It looks like an odd cross between am Audi and an Infiniti.
* Ditch the BIG wheels. The aftermarket will do it better no matter what.
* 300hp base model - 340hp Z28 (at least).
* Revamp visibility through the “C” pillar area. Remember 1975.
* No pointless upgrade pairings.
* No more than a $28,000 price tag on the high end.
James
I know if you produce this car, it will be the next car I purchase. Right now I own an 02 trailblazer, and I’m going to buy a car when I graduate from college in 2009, looks like I’ll buy the Camaro by the way the concept looks.
gene woo nam
dear bob, thanks a lot. i own a sixty seven camaro. it’s been my dream car and will always be my dream car. but i feel like i have cheated it. i want to buy the o-nine camaro so badly. i’d buy it with the largest engine and the best/most options and trim. then i’d drive it around a lot and garage my true love sixty-seven. i’m in college still but i really am going to buy that o-nine. and now i feel guilty. thanks a lot. you guys have created a new camaro i really didn’t you guys could make ever again. the design has grown on me fast and it is beautiful. make an RS please.
Rik
Awesome car! Build’em and I’ll buy one.
Sean
Now that I have had a couple of days to digest it, I find the following. First off it is a look I had to get used to, that is never a good thing. The Challenger hit me as WOW the minute I saw it. Although nostalgia concerning the Gen 1 F bodies is high I cannot help but noticing that the car the GM people should have taken inspiration from is the 70-73 F bod. To my Eye it is a much more attractive design and in my hunble opinion is the best looking postwar car to come out of Detroit. In this Era of platform sharing perhaps GM could have taken a leap step over everyone and did a Firebird concept based on the 69 Firebird which I always felt was the best looking of the Gen 1 F Bodies and a concept based on the 70 Camaro. I can pretty much say that the competition would not have seen that coming
Tracy Whyrick
I’m the proud owner of A 1969 Camaro RS/SS which is my Sunday driver. I would love to see this Camaro come out then I would have A great weekly driver. I’ve always been A camaro nut since I was 15 yrs old I bought my first one which was A 1971 then 67,85 IROC two 86 Irocs then 1991 Z28 tell I was 25 yrs old. But my dream has always been to own A 1969 and at age 38 I stepped up to the pump.This concept Camaro would be the best move Chevy could ever make. Don’t change A thing.
James Peffley
Bob and Friends,
This car is pretty good stylistically - however I must admit there is somthing missing, like passion that is created from curvature - Unfortunately the “new” modern style of making all vehicle door and other sides OVERLY vertical and slab looking is soon to runout as far as “in style” - this might work on the truck platforms - maybe even the cross over platforms, but definitly NOT on the performance cars! I would hope Ed Welburn has not considered this overly vertical sided design some thing that you would like to envoque - e.e. copy from the Mustang. Rather, have a look at the Dodge Challenger - look at the first clay images, the doors and panels are vertical, very “trying to look modern” - and by the final design - they messaged the rounded-ness back into the bottom edge of the door panle - and rockerpanel/fenders. Be sure not to be soo trendy - and STOP trying to COPY European esqe styling - it doesnt work for everthing! Use the American style that has a more cultivated sense in the history of this car. The interior must be more functional - stop the gimicky style. The interior of this car is as gimiky as the exterior of the HHR. The HHR could have ALMOST started a new style trend if you could have pulled the front fender into a more taught - forward projecting stance (i.e. a style that is literally moving forward even if the car is not!!!) - Dont pinch yourselvs into a corner of making everying short term stylistically retro/modern - rather try a “timeless” design - one that will be wonderful and poweful to look at now as it would be in the next 20 years. The front end of the car needs rework - the grill is nothing like “timeless or projective” nor are the headlights. Please remember that the beauty in the style is ended when the rear end is flat - i.e. the Corvette - what a Uhaul looking rear-end of a car!!! Drastic mistake - regardless of the safety and European imapct laws that were met by this type of design - please have your style designers work closer with your mechanical design and analysis groups - somehthing reminisent of a Skunk-Works groups should be working on this from the begining. Again - anyone who would be satisified with this design is jokeing - just as with the rearend of the Corvette! Its rediculous and NOT timeless - somehting that GM should remember when designing the exterior of automobiles - instead of having to reinvent car segments, and change brand image every time a car is released (spending rediculous amount of advertising money to do so) - it should have a common thread of style from decades past - and project into modern - while making material and ergonomic improvments paramount! PS if you need more of a definitive style marque to follow - look at Porche - the cars have continued all along a common theme - and dont spend money trying to reinvent car segments!! Use GM’s past style (where it was timeless!!) as a leg up - not a “run-from; - try to change image” policy you have envoked for soo many years.
Thank you -
James Peffley
P.E. Mechanical Engineering
M.S. Aerospace Engineering
M.S. Mechanical Engineering
Marc
Bob Lutz,
–TERRIBLE INTERIOR–
Problems and Solutions:
The success or failure of the Chevy Camaro has more to do with the interior design and perceived quality then most auto executive might imagine.
The Camaro concept car has received an overwhelming positive response from the press and the general public, however, I believe it has to do with the impressively sculpted exterior and nothing to do with the nauseating interior.
The area that the Camaro completely fails is it’s grotesque retro inspired interior. Consumers are looking for an automobile that has personality on the outside, usually described with retro interpretation, yet conversely requiring and a thoroughly modern and functional interior.
Retro design in general is extremely difficult to get ‘just right’, especially on the interior. The Camaro concept’s weak point, like so many retro designs before, is it’s repugnant interior. A clean modern and functional design plagiarized from the well thought-out Pontiac Solstice, Pontiac GTO and Corvette would be an inexpensive and simple solution. The best part is it will be an easy sell to CEO Rick Wagoner.
PROBLEM AREAS:
1. Bizarre looking ‘retro’ dashboard.
2. Malformed speedometer and tachometer.
3. Ghastly retro steering wheel. {Use the Z06’s wheel}
4. Fake chrome and brushed aluminum looks terrible and out of place.
5. Seats appear cheap and uncomfortable. {Use the Pontiac GTO’s seat!}
6. Metallic gold trims on the doors and dashboard give it a trailer park ambience. {Hire car designers and NOT Californian interior decorators!}
7. Eliminate the four tacky looking and improperly located instruments in front of the gear-shifter. {Worst idea yet!}
8. Tactless chrome shifter (Use the shifter from the Solstice)
9. Awkward and ugly air-conditioning controls (See the Solstice…again)
10. Missing a NAV computer screen (It’s 2006 not 1966)
11. Missing a radio
Sincerely, Marc
Connecticut
Kevin
Absolutely incredible Camaro concept. If this comes out, I’ll be first in line at the dealership. It’ll be my third Camaro. I had an ‘88 and a ‘98. Any chance this could be a 2008?
Jim Gay
Bob,
Great job on the Camaro concept! Makes me wonder if GM shouldn’t just focus on building really cool cars like this one and forget all the boring, daily commuters. Re: the competition, as always the target should be a lot better for only a little more money.
Ming
Bob,
GM needs to pull off another engineering feat and prove that it can make this work by Calendar Year 2007 - Spring of 2008.
Get Holden on board. Last I read, Holden should be introducing its Commodore, and hopefully a new Monaro soon after that. Even if you do not plan to build the Camaro in Australia, the Holden engineers surely have done most of the RWD platform work for you already in the new Commodore.
The GTO’s problems were with its 1990’s looks, not the great platform it rides on or the superb interior. With Holden’s help, I can see no reason why the Camaro needs to take until Calendar year 2008 (fall) or 2009.
Why re-invent the wheel with some Sigma-lite thing? What happened to all the talk about global integration? Why should Holden have a RWD platform years before we do in America?
If its a matter of building a factory, then start retooling one of the ones you planned to close down as a mirror image of one of the Holden plants, utilizing all of the work they’ve done so far in ramping up for the new Commodore platform.
I don’t want to see the next Camaro be another example of GM North America doing its own thing again and ignoring the vital input that its Global Partners can provide.
Same goes for the Astra and Vectra. Don’t make ugly heavily modified and decontented cars like the Malibu or bland cars like the Cobalt when the Opel offerings look so sharp inside and out AS-IS.
Sure, modify these cars for the needs of the US market, but that doesn’t have to mean reengineering them completely.
George M
I think its a great start, with the understanding there will probably be changes by the time it hits production, which is my only criticism, lets get this thing to market earlier. I hope this car will be available in low option/stripped down versions all the way up to Z-28 standards to appeal to all demographics/pockets. Finally, I would love to see this platform help generate a Firebird and Grand National to add a punch to those divisions.
George M.
87 Buick Grand National
L79
One more thing, can we get some crossed flag emblems on the lower front fenders please. thank you
Ralph
I have to say that I am very happy with the new Camaro and those people that I have shown it to have also been really impressed.
It’s not really that long a time until it comes out as a 2009 model, realisticaly the 2007 cars will be out this summer, the 2007 Tahoe is out and on the roads already, and the 2008 cars out will be out by the summer of 07, so we really are about 2 years away, more or less from seeing a 2009 Camaro, I guess that some people really dont understand how long it takes to come out with an all new car from the ground up, the Solstice was a concept in 2001, and rolling off the assembly lines in 2005, it really did not seem that long did it? Even all mighty Toyota took 4 years to bring that Land Cruiser concept to production, so relax people, it’s not like GM can crap the car out next month.
As nice as this high performance version of the Camaro will be, there are somethings the people need to realize, no matter how much HP the Z/28 or the SS version of the Camaro will have, this car will live and die by the base model Camaro. That was one of the problems I felt the previous generation Camaro had, the performance versions were great, but the base version felt so lackluster in comparison, it was tough to overcome the 115 to 110 hp disadvantage that the V6 Camaros and Firebirds had in comparison to the Z/28, Formulas and Trans Ams.
I would imagine that GM is a little better equipped to rectify this problem today, I woud expect to see at least 230hp in the base Camaro. I would not mind if GM used either the 3.9 OHV with 240 or the DOHC 3.6 Twin Cammer with 250 to 270hp for the base Camaro, though the OHV engine would allow the Camaro to have a lower production costs, I dont know if there are many changes that would have to be made to the OHV 3900 to set it up for RWD duty, the 3.6 DOHC engine is however, all ready in use in several RWD applications. Also the 3.6 DOHC engine making 250 to 290hp would make the base Camaro a sophisticated alternative to the Z/28 and SS versions, i.e, something that would make an import buyer take a second look at the Camaro, whereas the base Camaro with the OHV 3900 would have a tougher time attracting import intenders, a base Camaro with a DOHC engine could appeal to a wider variety of customers.
Chevrolet could also consider installing the DOHC 2.8 V6 as the base engine making about 230hp and the 3.6 DOHC as the optional V6 engine. The Mustang currenty has a base price of about $19,000, though it will probably go up by the time the Camaro is out, if I was in charge of the program I would aim for a base price of about $20,000 to $21,995. With a midline RS model that can either be equipped with the standard 3.6 DOHC engine or an optional 310 to 320hp V8, the RS model should be priced in the neighborhood of about $24,000 to $25,995. The RS option gives the buyer the chance of adding in a V8 or keeping the already powerfull 3.6 DOHC engine, it allows you to have a V8 Camaro with out the extra cost of steping into the Z/28 or the SS versions. Of course there would be a coupe and a convertible version of both the base and RS Camaros, the base manual transmission for both Camaro versions should be a 6 speed manual and there should be an optional 5 or 6 speed automatic.
The high performance variants of the Camaro would more that likely include the Z/28 and the SS versions. The Z/28 should have a base price of around $27,000 to $28,995(yes it is more than the current Mustang GT, but remember that this is a 2009 price not a 2006 price) with a standard 345hp 5.3 V8 given the Z06 treatment with better breathing heads, a higher redline etc, standard 6 speed and an optional 6 speed automatic. The Z/28 should come with the best suspension package that Chevrolet has to offer for the Camaro. The SS should be the regular line flagship for the Camaro line with the exception of special edition models. The SS should have the 6.0 litre LS2 with 400 to 420hp and either the 6 speed manual or optional automatic. Base price for a Camaro SS should be around $31,000 to $32,995. Or course there should be both coupe and convertible versions of the Z/28 and the SS.
Special Editons, why should Ford be the only one that sucks the marrow out of their heratige with cars like the Bullitt and Mach 1, let Chevrolet have a crack at it too. I think that Chevrolet should do whatever they can to make sure that the new Camaro is the Pace Car for the 2009 Indianapolis 500, and once again offer the car with the same white with orange stripes like the 1969 Pace Car. ZL1, if the horsepower wars really get ugly, slip the 505hp Z06 LS7 engine into the Camaro as the ZL1 package and offer it for $40-42,000. I dont expect that the 425hp 6.1 litre Hemi will be the only engine available for the Challanger, I would expect that there will be V6 and 5.7 litre Hemi engines available as well. The new Shelby is nice but quite expensive for a Mustang, even if it is going to have 450hp. The Shelby and the Hemi 6.1 versions of the Mustang and Challenger are going to be limited edition top of the line models, if I were in charge of the program, I would not worry about competing with those models right out of the chute, I would first concentrate on the basic base, RS, Z/28 and SS versions before I would do a ZL1 model or anything like that.
I expect that GM and Chevrolet can make a business case for the new Camaro, especially if the costs are spread throughout several cars within GM, I could see the same plant that turns out the new Camaro also making the next generation GTO and even perhaps a Buick version of the same RWD Zeta/Sigma couple platform as the Buick Riviera or Velite.
The Firebird Question-
There are alot of people that would like to see the Firebird return as well, I would say no, unless the Pontiac version can be made significantly different for the Camaro as to not steal sales from each other. If the Firebird was designed as lets say a hatchback coupe with a 2+2 style interior and reverse opening doors like the Saturn ION quad coupe, and it came with an all OHC engine line up, like a 3.6 DOHC as the base engine and an optional DOHC V8, perhaps then there could be enough consideration to build a Firebird/Trans Am, but again, it must not compete with the Camaro too closely and it must still be under the GTO performance and price wise. Giving Pontiac version of this platform clould also help spread the costs out over more models.
Dennis Bolden
the front end and rear end looks like sh?t. gm could do better. just cuz ford bet them to it . i will find that 69 camreo i want and it will not be the new one .
Dave
Chevrolet released their concept for the new Camaro, and the Detroit auto show, and it made a big hit, when I first seen it I thought that it looked a bit to much like the mustang, but after more studying on the camaro, it really doesn’t look like the mustang at all.
The Camaro is due to hit the showrooms in 2009, and I figure that before it does that Chevrolet will update a few things on it, it really needs just some very small adjustments to the front of the body, maybe a bit taller grille and a little more of an arch in the front fenders.
All in all Chevrolet has done a great job on this car “kudos to them” it’s about time that they brought the camaro back to their line of cars, and they have done a wonderful job on it, the camaro retains enough of the 1969 body style that it will hold the interest of the old camaro fans, and combines it with the new technology in a smooth and flowing work of art.
The camaro boasts 400 hp to the rear wheels, and no option for an automatic transmission, makes this car a camaro lovers wet dream, it’s bound to be one of the biggest things to hit Chevrolets car line since the on set of the new Corvette, witch was amazing in it’s own right.
The styling of the new camaro is a god send, and all I can say it congratulations to Chevrolet for doing it, along with the exterior of the car, the interior of it is a feat of modern engineering meats the artist of Chevrolet, keep it up guys.
Longtimer
Mr. Lutz, it truely wonderful to see the results of having real car guys at the helm of GM, rather than accountants and cookie cutter thinkers. Cars like this Camaro, the Solstice, and the C6 Corvette will lead the way to a lineup of wonderful sedans and technological pioneers that will provide great success to GM. Many of us are poised with check books in hand, waiting for cars like this Camaro, and even that red SS Concept that was on the show circuit a couple of years ago. If you build them, we will come … to the dealerships and buy them.
Thank you,
Longtimer
Ed
Its good, but not the greatest. I would have to say (from the pics i have seen) that the challenger is a bit better looking. And i am 99% sure that fantastic interior wont make it to the production model. However, i am a diehard chevy fan, and would buy it anyway. Your problem, though, is getting non-diehard chevy people to buy it. Put the LS2 in a car under $30k, and people will flock to it. Concerning the Z06 engine, I feel that it would be cost prohibitive to put such an exotic engine in a low end sports car. No doubt the LS7 version of the Camaro would push the $40k mark, putting it within spitting distance of the corvette. I dont think you guys want to do that… I propose building a 427 engine like the LS7, except without all the exotic bits. Basically just a bored and stroked LS2, something along the lines of what aftermarket people like Lingenfelter have been doing for years. This could drive down the cost of production significantly, eliminating the costly rare metals, the handbuilding, and the dry-sump oil system. This way you could sell a 427 car for mid 30s. Maybe still sell make a limited production run of LS7 equipped cars (numbering no more than a couple hundred cars per year).
desmo
Funny, the excess cost of labor, in terms of jobs bank and wages, would in one year cover the cost of producing this car. I wonder, if people looked at inefficiencies in the company as opportunity costs — if they saw it as a choice between a jobs bank and a new Camaro — what would happen? Instead, it’s as if GM just accepts an exorbitant cost structure and says “we’ll do the best we can with whatever’s left.” That’s a fleecing of the shareholder (and the auto enthusiast) if I ever saw one.
Carlos A.
OMG! This needs to be on the tomorrow! Actually… I was really impressed by the horsepower, but I too am concerned by the HP that the base model will have. Also, I am wondering how big the trunk space will be. Because I am a current Camaro owner I have grown to appreciate the non-conventional trunk it has. Keep it pretty fast and it will sell. I am tired of seeing so many damn mustangs. haha. thanks
Dillen
I was over excited when the Vette was bumped up to 500hp but now a 400hp Camaro my dreams come true. If I could get the Z06 I definately would but a $30k camaro MAKE IT HAPPEN!!. I’ll take mine now Trident Blue with two white strips on the hood and trunk. Go ahead and drop it off at Lingenfelter I’ll be by later to pick it up with 700hp.
Jim
Wha wha wha, don’t like the grille. Wha wha wha, don’t like the emblems, Wha wha wha, I don’t like the tail lights. Wha wha wha,I don’t like the interior. Wha wha wha, I want a T-top, Wha wha wha, it needs round tail lights, Wha wha wha, it looks to retro, Wha wha wha, it doesn’t look enough like a generic jelly bean of the later ninties, Wha wha wha, theres no vinyl roof. Wha wha wha, theres no whitewalls, Wha wha wha, there is no rear window louvers.
Wha wha wha, I am going to buy a Mustang.
Wha wha wha, I am going to buy a Challenger.
Gessh,
Come on guys, lay off. Let Bob get this car into production as quick as possible. Let the aftermarket gurus take care of your needs after the car is in production.
Bob,
The Camaro looks great from the front to back, and from any angle, interior included. You and the Camaro team should be feeling on top of the world. Thanks,
Jim
Carlos A.
OMG! This needs to be on the tomorrow! Actually… I was really impressed by the horsepower, but I too am concerned by the HP that the base model will have. Also, I am wondering how big the trunk space will be. Because I am a current Camaro owner I have grown to appreciate the non-conventional trunk it has. Keep it pretty fast and it will sell. I am tired of seeing so many d**n mustangs. haha. thanks
David
just got back from LA auto show. The Camaro was awesome! I have always been a Camaro fan and was sad when you drop it.I have a 1969 Camro RS that I will never part with.I will be the first in line to buy this Camaro concept.Please dont disapoint the Camaro fans and bring back the Camaro.
terry brown
You really had a great Camaro Concept for this year, and i think, every one is opting to have one too..Well, GM has always been one of the great manufacturer of cars in the automotive industry, and remarkably has the great features which anybody will love. And that, no doubt that the the GM parts comes in excellent quality.
No need to construe duh! You can barely see its unique styling and design; and about the performance? Its for you to find out… The Auto Inquirer .
Jeff
front end looks prettry good, but the rest of it looks to much like some kind of import. make the sides and rear more like the 69 and those cars will sell. if your going to make a muscle car then make a real one. ive allways been gm but i have to tell you, that dodge challanger is awsome, and you know why? because it looks so much like the 70. go back with the old muscle car designs and watch your sales sky rocket…
Richard Hanson
Yes, by all means, build this car! It’s a beautiful thing! If you are truely going to revive the Camaro, remember several things:
1 - The first Camaro had a wide spectrum of options and engines that made it affordable for most car buyers. A base price of $40,000 will ensure it will be low volume. A Base in the low 20’s could see decent volume. Remember, the orignal Camaro required 2 production plants (Van Nuys and Norwood - which are now shopping malls) because of its volume. My first exposure to the Camaro was as a high school student. At that time, even a high schooler with an after school job and a little help from Mom and Dad on the down payment could afford a 327 V8 Camaro with a manual transmission!
2 - Offer a wide choice of power trains - the big Corvette engine is great for some, but not practical for insurance or daily commutes, especially in winter climates.
3 - Don’t forget the convertible! I have a 2003 Sebring Convertible that will “need” replacing if you build the Camaro.
Edwin
Mr. Lutz,
As a Camaro owner, my reaction is that you have a winning design. It has beautiful lines with a smooth profile, that is great. Looking at it the picure, it is stunning. I preferred Firebirds, until the 1993-2002 Camaro.
I love the tail lights, perfect. I have one small suggestion that I think would win over any critics: stretch the headlight a bit more toward the center. Just so the head light area has a bit more glass to balance the attractive front grille. Also, as the car progresses through a design cycle keep the height of the headlight consistent with the tail lights, this was not the case on the 1999 redesign when the headlight change was too much thicker than the tail lights.
Probably, the important thing would be the details like color, wheels, engines, and interiors. The silver shown is especially nice. Also, this design would be great in the bronze tones, dark grey, and heather blue.
It should offer 3 engines. A V6, a small V8 with better economy, and a performance V8. I believe the small V8 would sell the best. It would be fun to offer a high pitched exhaust.
I like the wheels shown in the picture. Just don’t use wheel covers on the base model please, that would detract from the appeal.
Competition like the Nissan 350Z has lousy nylon interior, so I think the critics are not being really honest with themselves when they criticize GM interiors. Most GM interiors are much better than the competition, or the best in their class.
The Pontiacs and the GTO all have wonderful interior. If the base Camaro interior is as nice as the G6, that would be great.
Chris
What do we think?
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Build a Camaro is what we think.
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Kudos on the concept. I have a few observations that are admittedly biased as an owner of a restored ‘69.
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1) More vertical area to the grill with a smaller eggcrate pattern and a bumperline more parallel to lower edge of the grill. Think 1969 RS hideaway with the enduraflex bumper. I’m speaking elements here not direct copy.
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2) Rear end. The tailights and entire rear end do not invoke first generation. The tail pipes should be enclosed in some fashion removing the lower scallop and replacing with a continuous body panel. The tailights should be more “first generation”. The license plate recess is too deep.
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3)Keep the “coke bottle” side profile. This is what really makes the car instantly recognizeable as a Camaro. I prefer the scalloped wheel wells of the ‘69 to the round ‘67/’68 shown on the concept but could live with them.
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4)Love the interior. I like the console guages, younger posters be d**ned.
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5)Here is a hint. Tail end baby boomers and older Gen X’s have money, 20 somethings do not. Please don’t make it a d**n Civic.
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6)Keep it under 30K as presented and we will come back to Chevy in droves.
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Please, please build it.
Bob
Nice work! This is a project to be proud of. I actually was undecided on it until I saw the video, it looks much better in motion shots rather than stills. I’m looking forward to seeing it at the NAIAS in NYC. Now build it!
ken johnson
best looking car at this or any auto show, I have cars that cost 100,000 plus. I would add one of these to the stable the day it is introduced.
K. Johnson
camaro4ever
Bob, Are you going to rename this car as well?
Greg
Just a few comments.
1. Ignore the requests for a V-6 version of the Camaro. You want to shock a few people? Use the 4.2L inline 6 from the Trailblazer. 291 hp and 277 lb-ft of torque with the inherit smoothness of an inline 6, which is, after all, the original type of 6 cylinder available in the Camaro.
2. While ala cart optioning would be nice, those people who are asking for it while at the same time asking for a base price around $20,000 or less are dreaming. You can’t have both. Ala cart optioning for a large number of options will inherently drive up the base price of the vehicle because of the additional warehousing required and the additional complexity of build of the vehicle.
3. Instead of ala cart, offer a base stripped version of the vehicle with only an engine, transmission and rear axle choice, as well as a few major option choices such as A/C and stereo, and then use your normal package option proceedure for the rest of the vehicles.
4. Remember your modular dashboards of the 70’s? You know, those that made servicing the dash componants easy by having plug-in modules? Why not do that with the Camaro so that the dealers could sell optional gauges as accessories and the buyer can customize the gauge layout to their own tastes?
Just a few suggestions.
Brian
I love the Camaro BUT PLEASE make the interior materials top quality (no hard plastic dashboard, avoid monotones, anonymous looking speedometers/tachometers,etc ). I’d much rather spend more $ upfront to get an interior that matches the beautiful exterior. GM has made big strides but interior material qualities and aesthetics are still not quite there (current Malibu, Pontiac Torrent, Chevrolet Equinox, Chevrolet Impala-while these are improvements over previous GM interiors still aren’t as good as Hondas/Toyotas). Unlike some people who seem to enjoy GM’s current difficulties I hope you keep up the good work and keep the new models coming!
Paul
Thank you so much Bob, this is what I have been waiting for
AJ
Mr Lutz
Just wanted to say what a great job on this Camaro keep up the super job !!!
Dave Lawson
Ok, just got back from Detroit, having seen the show yesterday (industry day).
The concept looks real good. Like the mirrors, like the back end, most bits in between. Hard to comment on the interior as the vehicle was kept behind barriers. (Probably wise, since based on the positive response thus far, someone would start stealing bits off it!)
One comment though, and at great risk of being electronically bludgeoned on this blog, but you could wrap that skin around the chassis of the Dodge Charger. You need to lower the front of the hood, guys. That’s it, my only quasi-negative comment.
Go build….I’ll be happy to help.
FrankMK
Congratulations Bob - I have to agree with the overall message that’s coming from these postings; the Camaro concept is a great start in the right direction for Chevy. I also agree that a GTO-style gauge package would look a lot more dignified than the 50’s/Art Deco thing that’s going on in the concept I/P. At first glance I thought the belt line accent creases were too Cadillac-looking for a Chevy but they do grow on you- a bit! Maybe something softer from the A-pillar back - to avoid the Batmobile look alluded to elsewhere in this blog. Also maybe bigger front lamps would appease the retro ‘69 fans. It goes without saying; the interior has to be solid and as world-class as you can make it without blowing the sticker off the glass.
Chris Natoli
Thats a hot rod.. Bring It Back…
I just hope GM doesen’t water it down like they did the SSR….
Justin TG
It is a fine looking car. I love the direction it has taken. A little more work on the rear end and make sure you can get t-tops on it. If you need any help with test drives or demos I’m sure I can become available.
Bert
GM build it but please don’t change it! It looks menacing and I love it. I haven’t been this excited about a car in a decade.
John Schutz
Beautiful concept, but not a Camero, maybe a 2014. The reintro should be closer to the original. This car is just a continuation of the Camero you ended up dropping.
Ordered my Mustang GT yesterday. Had to wait 2 years for them to come off allocation and surcharges from the dealers. The car is nothing new, a very simple knock off of the original…. the car I always dreamed of owning.
Eazy research, just watch the Barret Jackson auction. We are baby boomers (I’m 55 )and now we have the money to buy the car we dreamed of in 1968.
Didn’t the GTO teach you anything? A magnificent muscle machine in an 80s Ford Taurus melted bar of soap. If the car had been o the 67 styling you would be at 250,000 units.
Your making this intro way to complicated. The new Dodge Magnum will be 200,000 units, just like their going price at Barret Jackson. Their concept car looks just like the original.
Again, pretty concept car for a Camero….. a long way down the road. You are starting off where you ended up last time and it failed.
Demographics, simple basics, look at the numbers. We’re older– baby boomers, there are a lot of us. The kids are raised and gone, our careers on cruise control and we have money.
The KISS strategy all the way. Just trying to help.
Thanks, John
greg
Only one request: Prioritize the Camaro and get it on the roads in 18 months.
Thanks,
greg
4EverCamaro
Bob, Thank you and everyone involved in bringing out this Camaro concept. Since Monday morning I can’t get enough pictures and info on this car. I can’t get any work done at my job. This car is fantastic, unbelievable. I haven’t come down from an emotional high yet. I eat, sleep and breathe this car. I’m the original owner of a 74 Camaro with 13,700 miles on it. Please don’t tease us with this incredible machine and then you don’t build it. This truly is a new Camaro that has a few styling cues that pays honor to the classic 69. Please don’t let us down. It would be a long and tragic fall. Thanks again.
Robert Starinsky
Bob:
The retro Camaro is a great idea. However, the concept is a bit too edgy — looks too much like the newer Caddies and not enough like the original Camaro. Round out the edges and straighten out the grille before it hits the streets. A retro Firebrid/TransAM also makes sense.
The Enclave looks to be a great crossover. Sure looks better than the ‘new’ GM big SUVs, which look too much like the old big SUVs they replace.
The new green line VUE is interesting. Stretch it a bit, add a third row seat, keep it priced aggressively and you’ve got a great option the the Toyota Highlander hybird in the making. But when will GM really get aggressive/serious with hybirds?
It’s too bad you’ve essentially killed one of the best value propositions for the remainder of the Saturn brand — the ding resistant plastic body panels.
john
Fantastic - build it
Eric Planey
Bob,
Now that everybody wont have anything to say on the blog (as there will be no more “bring back the Camaro”), I suggest we start fighting to bring back the Pontiac T1000!
Seriously, Bob, great job to your team. Its a winner. It can be a profitable platform, and it can be done in less than 2 years. The Solstice was the test of that, the Camaro is the proof.
Go GM.
Scott
That car is incredible, I love it! I would put a deposit down the first day available.
Ken Wingo
Bean counters (accountants) do not make General Motors money..designers and engineers do. It is design and engineering that sells cars not accountants. IF YOU HAVE NOTHING PEOPLE WANT TO BUY, THE ACCOUNTANTS WILL HAVE NOTHING TO COUNT!! People will want to buy the new Camaro. This will create sales momentum that will carry over to other GM models. YOU ARE A KLUTZ IF YOU DO NOT LISTEN TO LUTZ!
Build the Camaro. It looks great and will perform great. Just make sure the acountants do not entice you to scimp on quality in favor of this quarters profit margin. Why do you think Toyota has been successful? They design their cars to last more than 5 years!
Cleotiz
I totally love it!
Great jobs guys.
I live in Europe and i own a 1995 Z28.
I always loved the Camaro and dreamed about having one since i was a kid.
Make it!! I WILL buy it!!
Just make it so that importing it to my country doesent cost another 0,5 Camaro
Cheers Cleotiz from the Netherlands.
Courtney M
The Camaro is incredible and should go into production ASAP! I own a 2004 GTO and I love my car but it’s a fact that it’s a little too bland until you get behind the wheel. GM needs high quality reardrive cars bad. Americans have been buying japanese cars because if you have to drive a boring, stupid FWD it might as well be high quality. As soon as the new Chrystler 300 came out we loved it and people will love the Camaro.
Obviously you guys won’t be able to keep the 21″ and 22″ wheels but please go 19″ at least. The interior is very cool and has character the way it should but the bright orange lighting is not good and could never make production. Look to the quality of the 04′-06′ GTO but the simplicity would not do this retro Camaro justice.
Build it like this
Base model 300+ hp 6cyl/small V8 $25,000
Z28 400+hp LS2/LS3 V8 $30,000
SS 500+hp LS7 V8 $35-$45,000
Build it and tens of thousands will come.
Chuck
Camaros and Firebirds are not going to save GM. Solstices with 260 hp and Skys (Skies?) will not save GM. Targeting and beating Camry and Accord will do it. Offering a true buzz car like the 300C or the Prius will. Looking to the future instead of the past will.
That said, the Camaro is a nice niche vehicle (like the Corvette, GTO, Solstice or XLR) that should buoy GM. But it cannot carry GM, any more than giant fuel-slurping SUVs and trucks can.
Kill Buick. Kill Saturn. Either kill GMC or kill Chevy trucks that duplicate the models. Make Pontiac a boutique performance company by dropping the number of models to just a few (GTO, Firebird, Solstice). Chevy needs to do the heavy lifting of being a Honda/Toyota beater. Only Cadillac seems to be on the right course.
alex
Bob,
I just wish the car had the two large headlights like the 1969 had. The cowl hood is enough I don’t care for the front air scoop it seems too much!
If it were built,a bare bones 4800 V8 version instead of a V6 would be MUSTANG KILLER! You could save costs by only offering Camaro in V8’s. With a choice of large or small displacements. Of course displacement on demand for fuel economy on the small 4800 V8. I hope this is useful!
Alex
Lee Smith
YES,YES,YES. This is the best thing I have seen from Chevrolet in a long time. Dont change a thing just build it as it was seen at the Auto Show. Dont cheap it up with a cheasy V-6 option either. If we are gonna have muscle cars again, they need a V-8. Awesome car and I am very excited to see what is in store for the future of Camaro. Maybe next we can see a future Chevelle too!
Josh
Build It!! the design is awesome.
Snaykize
I went to the LA Auto show today and the New Camaro blew me away!! This is one of the hottest cars I have ever seen!GM needs a hit and they have one!
Please don’t change a thing on the car!
Dave
I love the Camaro!! I had an IROC Z-28 as a teen. I personally do not like what I see, compared to all of the other concept pictures. What did they do to the front end? It looks dorky. The back end too. I like the Red/Green/Yellow concept pics I have seen on various sites. The one they released for the show just doesn’t do anything for me. I hope this is not the final design. I do want another Camaro. I will be 40 soon and that would be cool to have one again!
christopher
Mr. Lutz
May be you should consider running for public office, That is probably the most non committal statement you could possibly make.
GM seems to have lost sight of the people who have the power to purchase vehicles, the only exception of course being full size trucks and SUVS.
From my view point GM only intends to make vehicles to suit the younger generations and impoverish them with a new car payment.
I deal with many loyal GM owners, and popular opinion is you have forgotten all of us that strive to remain true. Not only for Camaro, but for Caprice and the big Buicks.
All I can say is keep it up, Oldsmobile will not be the only forgotten nameplate. Remember 87 Cutlass Supreme was still a top seller for GM when it was axed.
Mike
I love the Concept Camaro. Please put it into production asap!
I WILL buy one as soon as GM puts them up for sale!
I love the car. The only things I do not like are the mirrors (They are too small and angular), the wheels (They are too big, put on 18s), and the grill (Make it a little less pointed), and the interior (Make it a little more normal. I do not like the gauges in the center console, or the coloring of the gauges. Make the interior less retro).
Other than that you hit the nail on the head with this concept GM.
Please put it into production!
Mike
Some thoughts on the car: First, you definitely need to offer it in Hugger Orange. Secondly , a lot of folk’s main gripe is the front grille . Perhaps a hideaway headlight version like the RS/SS ? If you build this car , I will buy one. I’m a moderator on http://www.ls1tech.com and there’s lots more potential buyers for this car from where I came from. Also , American muscle is one area the Japanese, European , or Asian manufacturers will never be able to compete with you. This is a golden opportunity for you to capitalize upon. Build it , we’ll buy it!
Patrick
The concept Camaro takes all the good aspect of the late 1960’s model, and trims it down to a more aggressive, sleeker looking car. I’ve been looking to get a 1969 model, but if you’re coming out with this model in the near future, I’ll just wait and put a deposit down on one as soon as I can.
Great work, now lets see if GM can follow through on good ideas. I’m sure Kirk Kirkorian will give you the extra $800MM you need to put it into production.
richard
I can’t wait to see it at the car shows! It looks cool! Will there be a SS & Z/28?
mike b
Mr. Lutz,
I’m a multiple generation Camaro owner, restorer, and enthusiast. I currently own a ‘69 and ‘98 Camaro and would like to give you my grades on the design:
Exterior: B+
It has great potential, but there are a few tweaks are definitely needed. I agree with being a contemporary design, but the car should be recognizable as a Camaro from any angle.
First, the side profile looks too much like a Chrysler LX. The roofline is too low - looks like someone sat on the car. The B pillar is too angled and the rear deck too short and stubby with the wheels pushed toward the front and rear - this is what gives it the “300″ look. I think we need to “mine” a little more of the 1st gen character for the profile. The first gen roofline is the way to go. Remember - this is a car, not a F22 Raptor. I think the monocoque style body of the 1st gen cars would be a great addition also.
Kudos on the raised and bulged rear ¬º panels. It’s those haunches that say it’s a Camaro!! I also like the front grill - nice job, but too pointy!! Can you please soften that??
Rear taillight panel and bumper needs a redesign - to rounded off and the taillights are wrong for this car. The exhaust pipe exit looks like an Acura. Please look at the ‘69 for guidance here.
The air inlet at the front of the grill should be removed. Cowl hood is perfect
Fender outlines are OK, but should probably look like a more like a 69/70 Chevelle or Camaro - not round.
The 22′ wheels are WAY too Bling Bling. Get rid of them ASAP.
Drivetrain: A+
What can I say? BW T56 with an LS2. Please be sure to include a rugged rear differential. People are going to race these cars and going to an independent setup will increase repair costs. Be sure you have the strength to handle at least twice the power of the stock engine.
Interior: C-
Looks like a bling bling version of my ‘69 Camaro - the center speedo and tach with the console mounted fuel / temp / oil / voltmeter. All I can say is update this and get rid of all the flashy chrome.
Conclusion:
Take this please as constructive criticism. I’m one of the hard core enthusiasts of this car and would like to see it succeed and make money for GM. I think you have an absolute home run if you tweak these details and do this car correctly. It also has to be priced right. If it is priced like the GTO - forget it! Forget about any production plans if this car is priced in the mid to high 30’s for a performance version - people will not buy it!! This car MUST BE affordable to many people and it absolutely HAS TO offer BANG for BUCK.
Reliability and quality is also a Camaro perception that needs to be bolstered - sharpen your pencils and do a good job engineering the production version. Don’t cut corners!! We don’t want our teeth and the interior to rattle while driving.
And finally, I think I speak for all the disciples of this car when I say thanks for giving a resurrection to one of the great American icons.
Good luck Team!! You’ve given us hope
Mike
Rick Sullivan
Well Bob, I believe your guys have come up with a winner. As a proud past owner of 8 Camaros and present owner of a 69 Indy Pace Car and a 97 Brickyard Pace Car I can’t wait for this one to Pace Indy. 2007 would be the 40th Anniversary, it would only be fitting to unveil the Huggers return. Its Baaaack…The Hugger. I have just reunited with my High School sweetheart, also a proud owner of an 81 Camaro bought new. We are already got our priorities in place. Get Married, buy new Camaro, and live life to fullest in our new Chevrolet. This will be our baby. Good luck…build it..millions will come.
Clint Holmes
Its an OK concept. Why base the entire design after a ‘69 camaro when there has been so many great things from ALL of the differant models thru the years. Personally I dont like Camaro and never really have, I’m a Trans-Am guy. If there will be no pontiac version of this car, dont bother building it.
This design looks really lame compaired to the Challenger concept. Save your money, dont build a Camaro till you can design one that is what the f-body was all about, a performance car that utilizes cutting edge technology to perform better than the competition. This concept looks like a smooth, polished version of a ‘69. If this car doesnt perform better than any other domestic performance coupe, I’ll be buying a challenger. I need to see a final production version and what year this will be available……BEFORE THE CHALLENGER IS AVAILABLE! Or I’ll be picking up a challenger.
Nice doing buissness with you GM…..see you later.
Mason M. Leija
It’s about time for the return of the Camaro! Long over due! Just got back from the L.A. Auto Show. What an awesome car. One thing though, the back of the Camaro has some similiarity to a mustang. Maybe you guys can work on that. Overall being a Camaro owner all my life I’ll be first in line to purchase one when they come out. You guys rock! Hurry up! Can’t wait. God Bless.
Mike Montague
I flew to Detroit this week end mainly to see the Camaro concept car. It was “OK” but it has some Cadillac lines to it. After seeing the stunning drawings of Kris Horton’s view of what he’d like to see a Camaro look like in Popular Hot Rodding Magazine, I like what Kris envisioned better. I’m a 72 Trans Am owner and would love to see the Firebird/Trans Am come back in addition to the Camaro. GM has given the Pony Car market to Ford. The ONLY reason I’m not placing an order for the new 2007 Shelby Mustang is because my wife said we couldn’t have a Ford parked in the driveway.
David Foutch
As A 41 Year GM Employee with 4 Corvettes 53/63/73/88 PLUS several other GM collector vehicles, would say lets GIT R DUN!! Even tho we know you have been runnin the company down for other objectives, colors,names,product,all have been out done, everyone on the shop floor knows the competion has hot products, lets catch up!!!
Edwin
Mr. Lutz,
Just look at all the responses you are getting to build the Camaro. Do you understand why? The Camaro establishes Chevrolet as a brand for the younger car owner. Its the Corvette of the college student. GM owners are sick and tired of the media yacking with pro Japanese editorials for Hondas and Toyotas. The term “American” Honda is an oxymoron at minimum. When I saw Honda’s American float at the Rose parade I almost fell off my chair. So did the media censor the GM float or were you guys not there. Why do we see pictures of the Hyundai plant which is nothing but a foreign parts dock paid for with 700 million in tax breaks broadcasted 24-7, but most of country doesn’t see any pictures of GM’s world headquarters or plants? Why do you guys let turn coats in Washington walk all over you?
The latest Toyota ad on the radio said the name Toyota at least seven times before I lost count. This is enough to make GM enthusiasts sick. We are tired of the Motor Trend arrogance, you guys ought to pull every ad from Motor Trend, and Car and Driver and give it to Road and Track so they can give free subsciptions. We have heard enough of the “its a Honda” ads too. All these other brands do is run on snob appeal to young guys who don’t know a great car actually is. Not every young guy who buys a car is a car guy, they are just looking to satisfy their ego. You should hear parents discussing what kind of car to buy Johnny and Suzie for college sometime. Its not just about insurance costs its also about the kid’s image. Just take a look at the pitiful Civic, it’s ugly, and it sells because Honda promotes it as male sex appeal, then there is the Scion, marketed like a pair of jeans in a teen clothing store. Tell your marketing people to wake up, start running male sex appeal ads like the foreign brands do. If they can sell Scions like blue jeans, then you can do it with Chevy’s and Pontiacs. Stop letting these foreign companies that make tin cans for cars call them quality [tin cans] just because they have 100K warranties.
I’d love about to have just 15 minutes alone with your marketing deparment, I will work for free. GM enthusiasts are glad you are listening to us, let’s hope we can give you some clearer vision of how to market. FYI, I heard Mr.Wagoner’s radio interview in Washington, DC. Yes, and Oldsmobiles are great products. GM builds the best products, then keeps them a secret from everyone except people who know about GM products. Its time to change the quiet approach. At the lunch conversation, some parents who drive Toyotas and Hondas don’t even know what a G6 is yet so how would they know to buy it for their college kid?
Stop letting these other brands dog you with second rate products and snobby ads. Start calling the media on their falsehoods.
GM enthusiasts noticed when Pontiac beat the foreign competition in certified tests on the speed channel. The SCCA 0-60 certified times for Japanese cars came in with worse times than Motor Trends times. Why do you let the media get away with putting fake numbers out for the foreign competition?
And let’s hope that the Motor Trend car of the year pick irritated you as much as it did GM enthusiasts who believe the Solstice should have won. Why do you even advertise in Motor Trend? Give them a swift “high feature” boot for us, will you?
The Camaro is just the medicine to slam it to these guys. GM ethusiasts like GM products. These people buying these Hondas and Toyotas know very little about cars except the hype they hear from the media. They are the ipod junkies who just want to boost their egos. The Camaro is a real car, its just the car to save them from Honda garbage and bring them into the wonderful world of Chevrolet. Build perception.
Make a Camaro ‘light’ for them too, because many of these guys can’t handle all the power of Camaro SS.
Ricky Smith
Don’t change a thing from the showcar,especially the tires or wide stance of the fenders,I’m sure you’re going to have it competitively priced with the mustang and challenger.If you leave the car as is the other retros will be left in the dust.Plz build the car I’ve been waiting a lifetime for.I’m driving a eurosedan to fit in I need a car that represents my true spirit.When you build this car you’ll have a customer for life and take back a large portion of the market with a vengance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Micheal D
Just returned from the LA Auto Show and saw the Camaro Concept. This car is absolutely stunning. It’s probably the most exciting concept seen in years. Please build this car and be faithful to the concept. The biggest problem you’ll have is building enough of them.
The new, ridiculously retro Mustang has proven that there is still market for performance sport coupes.
Build this car and they will come!
john
Sorry, too angular, the mustang and the challenger are truer to their roots as far as looks. Smooth it out and make the front end look more like a 69
David Smyth
Beautiful design outside, but its TOO BIG by quite a lot. Its sized as if its still 1990.
You made the C6 Corvette far, far too big for this century — the C6 Corvette should be a Saturn Sky with a V8.
The original Camaro was FUN FUN FUN only because it was VERY light with that big V8. Remember that EXPLOSIVE performance? No way to regain that unless the car is SMALL AND LIGHT.
Face the future, not the past. Small and light is the only possible future with gas prices that will keep going rapidly up.
Get it under 2500 lbs, so from 2009 until you make a return on investment hundreds of thousands of people will actually want to buy it. But stick an aluminum V8 in there so we can still sometimes have FUN. Even a 3L V8 makes that wonderful V8 burble and roar if the exhaust is properly done.
95camaro20s
I just came from the LA Auto Show with great hopes of seeing this car in person and I have to say this was the biggest event of the year. Hundreds surrounded the revolving podium and many asked enthused questions. As I seen the car in person my eyes teared up because as the dying hope began fade, GM came in right on time by listening to the public. A 400 hp rear wheel drive vehicles with HUGE WHEELS and gets an estimated 30 mpg according to the spokesman is awesome. With more than enough room in the rear I WILL make this my family car. Come on GM give the people what they want!
David
After seeing it in person at the Los Angeles Auto Show, I can’t help but make a few comments.
First of all, I was raised in today’s America, where the parents aren’t buying American. Made in America doesn’t matter to my generation whatsoever. My current automobile happens to be American (a Ford Escape) because I felt it was a terrific purchase for me in all areas at the time.
However, my next car will be something a bit more fun.
I have been in love with the 2005 Mustang design since it was introduced as a concept in 2002. Ford nailed it. I was very disappointed to see that GM essentially dropped the ball and ended the Camaro. Frankly, I was not at all a fan of the most recent Camaro design during the ’90s, but there were some real gems in the past.
Pulling this back to today. I was very anxious to see the new Camaro at the auto show when I was there earlier. It was probably the biggest reason I was so excited to go. I almost ran to the GM booth to see the new darling in person. And I was impressed.
The design is lovely. It’s sharp and fierce. It just speaks power. It’s hard to not like it.
In the end though, I can’t help but agree with previous comments that its not only “too little too late” but more or less “catch up” to Ford.
Seriously, I would have a Mustang right now if they weren’t so poorly priced. I’ve flirted with buying one for months now and I simply can’t justify spending $25,000 for a car that looks so great on the outside but more resembles a Hot Wheel on the inside. Fortunately for Ford, it’s a fun ride.
With that said, you can’t just competitively price it against the Mustang, you have to beat it (which I sort of expect with all the new pricing by GM).
I also must echo one of the previous comments, about people wanting it now. Look at something like the iPod where Apple announces a product and that same day, it’s for sale. Now, that’ll be a bit more difficult for cars, but I can’t imagine GM being that “in the dark” when it came to how people would receive the car (I hope I’m not bitting my tongue).
Anyways, I love the design and think its a great step forward, but I think it may be a bit late to the game. Price to beat the Mustang and best of luck.
Eric
Fix the grill, headlights, tailights, and IP cluster. And for God’s sake, plese give us a TRUNK! DO NOT! I REPEAT DO NOT let this car have less HP than the Charger or Mustang . Don’t Be a sissy! Please make this car a Stunner. Make it a beautiful car inside and out. It needs more ThirdGen influence. If you do it right, I’ll buy TWO!
Brett
If GM makes this car the way it is I will buy one but if it changes the way GM always does,I will not buy one , it could end up looking like a cobalt with a 400 HP engine just like the GTO.
Brock
Saw the Camaro on Jan 14th and it was the main reason for going to Detroit. There were more people around the Camaro Display than any other car at the entire show. That with over 450 posts on this blog just a few short days after the show should send some signals that we want this car.
-Can’t wait to see it on the roads
Shawn
Looks great but I prefer a more vintage old school look! If GM wants to bring back the Camaro I say do it right!Back up to 1969 and make an exact copy of the SS no computer junk no fancy future junk just the Camaro at it’s best!
Rick Hunter
I just saw the concept at the LA autoshow.. Ok. so you introduced a Camaro concept. You’re going to get a whole bunch of press, get on covers of magazines.. basically lots of hooplah…but then what? you’re probably going to dumb-it-down, have god-awful truck-like handling on it, and a more conservative exterior for the mass market. Worse yet, it’ll probably come out with 17″ or 18″ rims rather than the 22″s on the concept. Why tease us?
Remember all the hooplah over the new GTO? Now look at it… Pity. The only thing keeping people interested in GM cars is the Corvette. Everything else you have are RENTALS. No one wants that, unless you’re from the Midwest. In California, you’re laughed at if you drive American. Why? Well just take a look at your current line up of vehicles. Your interior pieces look like they’re from recycled frozen dinner plates. My family used to own all GM, until they started falling apart due to poor engineering and quality control. Now we only own all Japanese made cars.
You’re seriously going to have to pull all the stops in this car to pull people away from other sports cars/coupes from Europe and Japan. Good Luck, but I’m not holding my breath-
GREGG
Just like many of the others have said…You can’t wait till 2009 for this! Mustang will probably be up for a revision, The challenger will have been out for a year. People who will be sitting on the fence won’t wait. It has to come out by fall of 2007 and go head to head with the challenger and before the mustang is revised.
Ryan
Bob-
My father owned a ‘69 camaro that every cop in town new. He still misses the car. My first car was a 94 camaro in radar red that the local police knew all to well. Now i am a cop, and im beginning to see why i was stopped so many times. This car is absolutely amazing. The front end looks like it was made to rip mustangs apart, the back looks like a jet, and the lines are perfect. the interior is great, who needs all the nav systems anyways? Build this car, and i will buy one, preferably an ss in the red that got me in so much trouble as a kid. I know i was looking for reasons to stop the mustangs and chargers when they came out, just so i could get a good look at them. build this, and i will do the same. warnings only, of course.
SamB
Great looking car! I was there for the reveal in Detroit and it was certainly well done.
I hope Chevrolet decides to bring this car into production, I’ll buy one and I have a number of friends who will too..just make it price-competitive with the Mustang.
Sam
‘67 RS/SS Camaro
‘70 SS big block Camaro
‘97 “Brickyard” festival Camaro
‘00 S-10 pickup
‘02 TrailBlazer
‘05 Malibu Maxx
Steven
Great looking car! I was saving up for a GTO, but I like this a lot better, and would love a new Firebird even more. Build it, please, and show ford that they aren’t the only company with a widely accesible rwd V8. Don’t forget the mighty Trans Am, either!
Cory
I LOVE the car!! As mentioned above, make it competively priced to the Mustang if not cheaper, and I’ll have one for sure!!
p.s. I’ll take a torch red, graphite leather int., ls-2(hopefully ls-7 if optional!!), 6-speed Camaro to go!
Jose
Mr. Lutz,
I would say the effort to bring back an icon of the muscle car era is great. The Camaro faithful have been waiting long enough, but unfortunately the design does not due justice. I know a lot of people don’t like the “retro” look and I know yourself have stated you don’t want to go in that direction. However, the new design looks okay but is missing some elements which in my opinion could have made the car more closer to the original. Even if the company does not want to go completely identical like Dodge or Ford, eventhough the Mustang looks similar not identical. The new Camaro could have been done, were the car looks similar and not identical to the original. The front of the car can use a redone and so is the back lights. An RS look front would make it look similar to the RS/SS Z28 from 69 and if you want to give some tribute to the second gen, then round lights in the back would do that also. Anyway, it is a good try but a little short. As some others have express here, by the time GM decides to make the Camaro it will be changed to something else other that what we see. Remember the Pontiac Grand Prix? The concept and the final product were completely different, it also happened to the Camaro back in the 80’s. The concept that was suppose to come in 1988 did not came until 1993 as the last of the Camaro’s. I would not bet on this one coming back looking anything like this or otherwise. Good Luck taking down Ford and now Dodge.
sign; “ex-chevy faithful”
Mike Calapai
Dear Bob
, I love the car. Its the perfect balance of the past and the future. I will definately be buying it when it comes out. Now lets get going and get this car built
Please
MiKe
Dave
Mr.Lutz
I think that the new concept for the camaro is a work of art, it’s has the perfect blend of modern and first gen (1969) Camaro, the 1969 being my personal favorite.
The mustang is no match for this car, as usual, Chevrolet has done it again, and it’s about time.
This car hits a spot for all of us true gear heads, with 400 hp to the rear wheels it’s hard to beat, and with the new body styling it’s the prefect example of design meets art, and I love it.
With the swept forward a- pillar and the swept back b-pillar, it appears to have a chopped roof, and it’s low slung stance gives it a sports car feel, but without losing it’s muscle car identity, this is a hard balance to achieve, and Chevrolet has done it perfectly.
After the release of the 2006 ZO6 Corvette, I was wondering what Chevrolet had up their sleeve, and now I know, Chevrolet is the best at coming up with new design and innovation for their cars, and they have proven that once again, with the new Camaro, now all they need to do is get it to production, I will be buying one of these, and a 2007 ZO6.
Workforce
Hey bob, if this too turns out to be a flop, will you still be compelled to give at the office?
Doug Clark,Jr
Build it! We’ve been waiting to long as it is. There are 4 Camaro’s in my immediate family my ‘99 SS I also have a ‘03 2500hd, dad has 2 a ‘70 lt1 Z28 and a 85 IROC, my cousins ‘80 Z28. Almost the whole family drives Chevy’s and we all want one.
John Carson
Good decision.
Don’t mess it up. I’m tired of hearing about all this HEMI crap.
GM must not only become more competitive to Japanese automakers now, but surpass them in reputation as reliable. I have found that most people who used to drive GM that drive HONDA, FORD, OR TOYOTA purchased a particularly overpriced and unreliable GM vehicle.
The Camaro must be priced at or below 25000 (20000 for base). It must embrace the F-body tradition of out-performing AT LEAST it’s Ford and MOPAR rivals, in power and maneuverability, and it must retain the camaro’s reputation as a reliable muscle car capable of being cheaply and easily repaired. Without these essential qualities, the camaro will go down in history as another GM flop and further lead the company to losses. I know that these are all obvious things, but I wouldn’t want you guys to screw up other there and send a nice car out there priced like a BMW or Mercedes (like the GTO, which I believe is a great car anyways.)
Wesley
Its about time chevy will have something to compete with the mustang again. Hurry up and make it!!!
Ray P.
Nice effort, but…
I have been waiting for this car for a long, long time. It saddened me greatly when the F-body production was stopped. I am glad to see that IRS went into the design (though not sure about production… should that happen).
I think it’s a valiant effort, but I do not think it is ‘retro’ enough. I have seen other peoples’ concepts (http://sports.autoblog.com/2004/10/18/2007-camaro-history-of-a-future-car/) that are slight more retro. Personally, I love the retro look in cars. While you have the naysayers who are against it, you cannot deny their success (think Mustang, PT Cruiser, and potentially the Challenger). I think riding the wave may be just what GM needs. I think you have started the ride it with the HHR, now you just need to continue.
What needs to be kept: The side view is great do not change that, nor the proportions (keep the fender bulges too).
What needs to be changed: Change the nose and the tail. These is too smiley faced, while the tail looks like it is from an import.
While nothing beats a 1st Generation Camaro (nor will anything ever), this comes mighty close.
–Ray P (New Jersey)
The Neverending Juicebox
everything old is new again
I was pretty bummed when GM decommissioned the Chevy Camaro a few years back and after the lackluster response to the T-bird reissue I figured they wouldn’t bother with another one. Looks like I was wrong. Check out new Camero concept car. (look in the…
myron
build it and i’ll buy one
Tom
I have wanted a camaro for the longest of time, If you build this car, my 2002 GMC Sierra will be towing this to my car shows. Build it and I will buy this vehicle.
Larry
This Camaro looks great! Shades of retro mixed with tomorrows needs blend nicely. Now crunch the numbers and build it, it will sell better than the Solstice, Sky, and Opel’s variant all combined. Give Cadillac a version to run with BMW. Then figure out what Pontiac and Buick are all about (heritage), they have along rich history with GM and deserve better. Saturn…. well what ever it is, you’ll have to decide. Right now it looks to me like you’ve just decided to rename Oldsmobile with Saturn, I hope it works. Don’t get rid of Hummer ever…… it’s your answer to the Jeep and it’s the right one.
John
Bob I just returned from the Detroit Auto Show and WOW the new Camaro is awesome !! both it and the new Dodge Challenger are hands down the hit of the show. It’s refreshing to see Detroit going back to its roots. Exciting cars like these will bring folks back to Big 3 showrooms not a copy of some Toyota. “Good Things can happen if they let the Car Guys do the designing” Thanks for making something to get excited about.
Dion
I saw it at the Detroit show. I t looked very nice and I like that it isn’t all retro. I hope that you guys can come up with a more marketable designation for the engine that LS2 to compete with the Hemi cache. My LS2 GTO is very fun to drive and I hope this positive response to the Camaro will inspire a similar strong concept for the next-gen GTO.
Adriana
As an owner of of a 78-Z I couldn’t wait to see the new Camaro concept. And I must say that it put a smile on my face to see that it did not mirror my sweet 78 wheels but it does have the ‘look’ that everyone envies! My fantasic yellow with black detail Z was a wedding gift from my Steeler Curtain crazed fanatic husband. The Z was my means of transportation for over 10 years until I moved into Chevy Suburbans. Our oldest daughther drove the Z (her first car) and we are doing some touch ups and getting it ready for our younger daughter. As my daughter said “it’s a guy magnet” the Z is bold, sweet, fast and classic.
Brett
First off, the concept is pretty good for what I’ve been seeing before this. I think the only problem is the front grille with the huge chevy emblem and how it comes to a point.
I own a 93 Z28 . . . I really wish you guys hadn’t ever stopped producing the Camaros and Firebirds and maybe they would flow a little better, like what the Corvette did. Don’t you see how the Corvette still looks like a C5, and the C5 looks like a C4 . . . it all flows. This looks nothing like a 4th generation camaro, and I think by just following Ford’s footsteps, you are taking good business investments, but you’re really throwing away any dignity and class you had with the 4th generation camaros. They were classy cars . . . to me, these just don’t preach muscle car. I couldn’t see one of these drag racing at the track. Just too big, too thick, too cheap looking, just like the HHR, etc. No more fender flares, no more quarter windows in two door cars. Just make things flow and make new cars be a little more high end looking. I mean when a 1999 Geo looks more expensive than a new HHR, you have some problems. Just . . . look at the 1993-2000 cars (not just fbodies, but all GM cars), and compare them to the 2003-2006 cars and see how much they’ve changed and look how many cars you’ve sold…
mikeb
Just saw pics of the original concept that was scrapped.
I think you should keep some elements from that concept:
1. larger trunk from the original clay
2. side beltline crease from the 1st clay. This will make the rear tail light panel look better. The curved “corvette” inspired rear just doesn’t look good. The tailights also not good on the current design.
3. Roofline looks better also on the original clay.
4. And keep the production car as small as possible
Just some extra suggestions. Can’t wait to see it on the street
mike
Jeremy Donovan
Mr. Lutz,
First off I would like to say awesome, just awesome. That car was everything a Camaro should be and is going to be. A Camaro has been in my life since the day I was born. I quess you could say that I grew up with one so I have great passion and fondness for this car. You could also say it’s a part of my family and tradition. I currently own several Camaro’s so when the news of the last Camaro being build that day in August came it was the same as losing a very close friend. One that could never be replaced. Now I was one of the few lucky people that had the chance to see the New car in Detriot the day it was unveiled and it was seeing a friend I have not seen in a couple of years. That car was perfect in every way. The car is worthy of the Camaro nameplate. To the design team awesome job I would not change a thing. To you Mr. Lutz build it this car needs to be in the chevy family again and on the lot’s of new car dealers. To the Camaro family please tell GM to build it, let them hear yuor voice.
There is one other thing you need to know you have a person that works for GM that has been this cars biggest cheerleader and supporter. One that has been telling us to keep the faith for a while now, one that has been called a liar by some that didn’t believe. Has chevy blue running thru his veins, spent countless hours of his own time talking to the Camaro community, a very dedicated employee and one that I hope GM better be glad that he does work for them. One that I am proud and honored to call him a friend and one that is very enthused to work for GM. One that he was very happy to see this new car coming out. That person would be Scott Settlemire. I would like to personally thank you Scott for being the person you are, without you this car would not be were it is today.
Your Camaro Comrade,
Jeremy Donovan
Torry
Let me know when I can send in the order. Defiantely I will need a hugger orange/tuxedo black stripe Z28. An option to COPO the Z06 engine will also be necessary for myself. This little lady is going to look great sitting next to my Nassau blue 1970 500HP SS Camaro. I would keep everything as is…I have the same tread under my classic as well. On a final note that tale section has got to be the most aggressive rear fascia I have ever seen. The design on the lights with the low brow appearance is exquisite. Keep up this kind of design and all of the future GM cars will fly from the showroo. Also I saw the concept GTO at the Le Mans races, that is another yank the money from our pockets kind of car. Good work, you have reinstated my faith in the GM.
Will Harmon
Mr. Lutz:
I am a 42 year old physical therapist, well-heeled enough to buy a new Z28, and in love with a car for the first time in decades! Please build it, as is, no changes, especially to the exterior and minimal ones to the interior. By the way, I have a 16 year old son, he LOVES it, and says he’s never heard so many of his friends talk so much about any car. This speaks volumes for the mass appeal of this car. I honestly didn’t think GM had it in them to make something like this anymore. It takes a special vehicle to make people fall in love. You guys NAILED it with this concept. Thank you very much, sir, and PLEASE, get it built for us.
scott
Bob,
Please make the 500hp ZO6 engine available for the 2009 Camaro! Otherwise, (like myself), I fear too many people will opt for the Shelby GT 500 instead. I certainly prefer the design/aesthetics of the new Camaro to the new Mustang Shelby (kudos to you), but I won’t sacrifice 75 horsepower to jump back into the pony car segment by owning the Camaro because of its better looks. “…..should the need arise”, is how you framed it above; I think it already has.
Congratulations on a beautiful concept! I look forward to returning to American pony performance–I’m hopeful you can deter me from ordering an ‘07-’08 Shelby GT500.
Thanks for bringing Camaro back!
Scott
Leroy Brown
I like a lot of the current ( new ) GM styling. That being said, I can’t help but hate the Camero concept. I hope it’s changed significantly before release. I do want to see a production Camaro, just not this one.
Vanessa
What a beautiful car!!!!
Yes Im gonna have one in my garage!!!!! (make sure that they can come to canada I would have the Pontiac GTO right now if it was here.)
Ryan
What happened to designing new cars?
Brad in NC
Please bring it back quickly. I have just about worn out my 4th Camaro and I need a new one soon! This new Camaro will be a breath of fresh air for Chevrolet and it’s loyal owners like myself. Don’t make us wait until 2009… Neither me nor my current Camaro will make it that long! The concept looks great.
M Faller
Build it, and please build it soon! I have beena die hard chevy fan for 30 years, but right now there is not really a car on the market that appeals to me. You have given us bow tie guys something to get excited about, but 3 or 4 more years is a long time to wait.
Maxwell Hensley
New Retro Mustang = F 15 Fighter Jet
New Ford Shelby Cobra GT500 = F 16 Fighter Jet
New Dodge Challenger with Hemi = MIG 25 Fighter jet
SSR = Gooney bird
HHR = Dodo bird
Camaro Concept = A Turkey
GM has come out with some of the greatest designs ever in the past. The present GM designers just don’t seem to have a clue. For a sucessful future you must know the past. You can’t make any progress by being stuck in the past, but you must know where you are from and what you are about. If all else fails hire the Ford designers.
john
It looks GREAT!
There is no way that this car wouldn’t sell. I myself will buy it if Chevrolet will put it into production.
gemblyCastillo
i am very happy to read that a new camaro is coming out i can not wait to own one in my family we have a 1970 camaro and is still running pretty good.. i can not wait i can to have today.. thank you for this new car I LOVE IT ALOT!!!!
p. north
the new camaro looked great i have two 94 camaro this a big step from 94 i hope to be able to get one an you build it real soon dealership near me said he well notify me so get on the ball thanks
Brett
Take the same chassis from the 4th gens, and build up from there . . . MAKE THE 4th GENERATION FLOW INTO THE 5th! I know doing this would throw the production in the opposite direction, and i’m probably only one of 10 people saying this, but please, i’m 17 right now, when this is built, i want a respectable car to drive! not a big clunky challenger-like car.
John Bazemore
If GM is concerned about satisfying the public and staying in business, then build the car. The number of people it will bring into the showroom alone will more than justify it’s existance. This car will be the best form of advertising other models. People coming into the showroom to just look at this car will also buy other GM cars. The public are just waiting for a car just like this. I purchased a Cobra because Chevrolet didn’t have a new camaro to offer. Yes I will sell my Cobra and buy this car when it’s offered.
Chris P.
Put a Kris Horton front clip on it and do something with the god awfull tailights and I’ll own one. By the way….
It’s about time! GM used to be ahead of the crowd . Quit playing catch-up and get with the program!
Stevens
Bob,
Now that you’ve heard from all the “muscle heads” you must also listen to reason. Build 2 Camaro’s. Build an order only SS500 Big Block to satisfy the few who want it, and build a fully optioned Straight Six model. That’s it! Meddle with more models and options and you might as well not even build it. Whenever you get the R&D together, nix the six and offer the hybrid. Come on guys lets GO!
Stevens
P.S.
Bob,
Don’t be fooled by us 46 year old Klunkheds that want a new Big Block Camaro or Hemi Challenger in our garage to do whole-shots with on weekends. You’ll go broke. Build a car that people will drive to work!
ken
I love the new camaro concept. However, I would like to see some changes to the rear and grill before production. I feel the tail lights should look more like the 69’s than a corvette. Also the grill could use a remake. No suggestions here on the grill. What about a 427 option? Please make the 427 or a supercharged LS2 available in a SS version.
Katie
I drive a 1968 Camaro and my Dad has a ‘67 and ‘69 Z28. We have the entire 1st gen. between us and have agreed that GM has fallen behind in design and performance. The new Camaro looks great - if ya’ll want a souped-up one build a classic. Now they need to get started on the Chevelle and maybe the Nova. I hope this is the beginning of re-vamped muscle to come…
RainCityTL
Funny. I have no interest in american cars but do have an appreciation of the vast, glorious history that came from the likes of the Mustang, Challenger and Camaro. I’m 28 and have always driven Honda’s (aside from my first car which was an old busted Excel). Now I have a 2004 Acura TL. This is the first GM product that I would seriously consider putting in my garage. It’s awesome. Don’t screw this one up guys. I’m sure you’ll find my conquests if it’s released
Joe
Bob, If it is not possible to put a solid axle on the Camaro, Please consider a Chevelle with one. I want a stiff rear end to drag race down the street and fish- tail on purpose. 400 HP is more than efficient for me, the torque is what I’m after. I had a 66′ Impala with a Big Block. 2 1/2 inch exhaust would also be nice.
Jimmy
I LOVE THIS CAR!!! SO WHEN CAN I PICK MINE UP??
Chris
Thumbs up on the Camaro concept. I think the ‘09 model year will be perfect timing for me.
I am surprised how few people mentioned a mid-size RWD/AWD 4-door sports car. Let’s be serious, the guys who got to drive all the 60’s and 70’s muscle cars have families. The younger generation who can afford a sporty vehicle want a functional back seat for friends, family, customers, etc.
Please offer competition to the Chrysler 300/Magnum success.
Also, turbo 4 cylinder options, too few in the US.
Dave
The best thing to happen at Chevrolet for years, well other then the Corvette, I can’t ever forget about the Corvette, but the Challenger, while it’s a very cool car, and would a be good second choice, nothing baets Chevrolet, and the Mustang, not close.
If you think the mustang is a close match for the camaro, just ask Ford, they seem to be on their way out of business, I think this is due to the fact that GM and Chrysler just seem to have better ideas when it comes to cars.
You can’t just upgrade an old car every year, people get sick of the same old thing all the time, car manufactures need to be creative and on the cutting edge of technology.
With the new camaro and the corvette that’s just what Chevrolet is, these guys are the best in the world at makeing a car that people like and want to buy.
People are proud to drive their Chevrolet cars and trucks, when you know what the public wants and you can give it to them, it will obvously propell your business in to the stratusphere, and that’s is where GM and Chevrolet is headed.
Eric
Mr. Lutz and Mr. Lee and anyone else involved with Camaro. . . I absolutley love it! I have always loved Camaros and I currently have a 92 RS w/ 305 and Heritage package. My father bought it brand new in 92, and it was passed on to me! If you build the new Camaro, you will have not only sold a car, you will have fulfilled my dream of being able to buy my own new Camaro. If you make it, I won’t be getting the lowly RS either, time for a Z/28 in my garage! Thank you so much for making such a gorgeous concept! I love it so much. It is everything I could have hoped for! Good job Mr. Lee, and anyone else involved in the design!
Benjamin E Stroup
Mr. Lutz, Thank you for the Camaro concept, please approve and build, if it takes till 2009 to do it right, ok.
I have a few suggestions.
17 or 18″ wheels.
Offer T Tops.
Offer a V6, LS2 and LS7, not detuned.
Keep the weight down, 3400 pounds or less.
If possible, wheel wells like 69 Camaro, with body flare from top of wheel well.
Chambered true dual exhaust.
Change the gauges, the retro console gauges are not pratical, unless you have HUD with tach, speedo, oil pressure and temperature. I’d prefer to have all gauges in front of me, like my 92 1/2T 4X4 or my 2000 Z28. Have an accurate temperature gauge, unlike my 2000 Z28.
I have owned 7 new Chevrolets, so far, and still have two.
I will buy a new Camaro when they’re built, I’d even bought one if it looked exactly like the 69. I do think your design team did a fantastic job on the exterior, love it.
Benjamin E Stroup
benstroup@msn.com
CaptainDan
I agree with Chris. The Charger faithful were all up in arms when Chrysler dared to build their favorite machine with (gasp) 4 doors. But all those guys who drove Chargers in the past are older now. Most of them have families. Or at least they’ve noticed that a 4 door sedan is more useful than a 2 door coupe. In fact, I’ve noticed a lot of manufacturers have dropped the coupe version from most of their models.
Of course the sporty vehicles, which only PRETEND to have a back seat, can have 2 doors (Camaro, Mustang, Challenger).
And don’t go telling me how FWD performs better in snow and ice than RWD. If you’re worried about that, 4WD is obviously better than any version of 2WD as soon as you’re not on dry pavement. And RWD out-performs FWD on dry pavement. FWD is cheap. Save it for the low dollar economy cars where performance isn’t the main concern. People don’t hod rod FWD econo boxes because they wanted FWD. It’s because they’re cheap, and there is very little available in cheap RWD cars. Even the later model F-cars were getting pricey (and heavy).
James Rust
Take your best shot, you are done. In the end there is nothing you can do to chage the outcome. What you did to tucker will now be your fate. Long over due.
Louis
I think the concept looks great, wonderful muscular stance, nice use of shapes but is this the right direction? Where do we go from here, how long does this model last in a line-up? If “retro”, I realize it’s stated as not being retro but what term do you use if it resembles a specific year of production? Retro is here and now, sales dictate that from other manufactures that have currently been producing “retro” vehicles. If Lamborghini, a 1500 vehicle a year producer is bringing a 40yr “retro” vechicle to market it has hit more then mainstream appeal.
It seems as “retro” is a trend and trends come and go, the so called non-retro camaro needs to be in lots tomorrow and a long term evolutionized camaro on lots in 2009.
American automanufactures need these vecicles, these are vehicles and vehicle passions that non-american manufactures can’t touch in the states.
David Graham
As the former owner of a 70 1/2 Z28, a 68 SS RS and currently a 73 RS, and an 18 year former GM product engineer, I have advocated the return of the Camaro ever since it stopped production. I regularly bend the ear of whoever will listen to me about the Camaro. As much as it pained me to see the Mustang sell as many as they have, I knew that’s what it would take to get GM to return to this market. Tell me, didn’t it embarrass GM upper management to tacitly admit that their cross town rivals could do a better pony car, or at least one that sold lots better, than they could. If it didn’t, it should have! As far as the Camaro Concept introduced at the NAIAS goes, great job. It will have more “legs” than the Challenger and give the Mustang a good run for its money. However, please, please, please be careful with the life cycle nurturing of the product. Don’t forget a convertible version. Don’t let it go too long without redesign (CFII 12 years, CFIII 11 years, CFIV 10 years). Don’t introduce too many Vette cues into the styling of the production version - that became the ultimate problem with CFIV - it became too exotic looking and lost it’s street presence. The Camaro is supposed to be the bridge between Chevy passenger vehicles and the Vette - not look like a low cost Vette. Keep the design pure. Keep the street credence. The market is there. Thanks for listening.
John C
Looks awesome! GM should have never left this market but when you do not update your vehicles for a decade you can always blame it on poor sales. Bring the passion back into your dealerships. Produce a Camaro that exceeds the competition instead of just missing.
Where is the Firebird and Trans Am? If nothing is planned then lets gets some styling into the GTO! Great car, just needs the looks to go with it. Great job on the Solstice. Get to a Pontiac show and you’ll see passion for a brand.
Bring it out and blow the doors off Ford, Mopar and the little tuner cars. Rear wheel drive rules!!
Dustin
hay bob hurry up an bild this car!!! i relly wont to buy it i cant wate ill take a navy blue with sliver strip’s the raceing strip’s are relly nice on em o yell please make mine t-top’s hurry hurry an get it outn 2007 make the price no higher then the 20’s thank u for bild ing this fancey car an a gen thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chris C.
Dear Mr. Lutz,
Please bring my beloved Camaro back to me as soon as possible!
I have been waiting for a long time to actually have the money to buy a brand new one, and now I have the means, there is no car for me to buy. My wife wants me to buy a Vette or a Dodge Viper, they are pretty pricey cars and I can afford one of them but, that is not what I want.
My very first car was a 1976 Camaro Type LT. You are a car guy, you know what it is to fall in love with your first car. Every since I crashed it, I have always wanted another one, but new right off the show room floor.
I am, in the very near future looking to buy a new car for myself as my current one is almost 9 yrs old and has 170K miles on it. I don’t want to go a buy any car and then I hear that the Camaro is hitting show room floors in 6 months. Please let us know when it is going into production.
I guess if we don’t hear anything buy winter 2006, I will just wind up having to buy a used one. Not really looking forward to that though.
Justin
The Camaro Concept is everything Camaro fans are looking for!! Im only 17 years old, but ever since I can remember the only car that I wanted to own was the Chevy Camaro. My grandfather always owned a Camaro, from the 2nd-gen to the 4th-gen camaro, and still has his 4th generation camaro. Both my grandfather and I were both sad to see this american icon go after its 2002 production year, and ever since I have been searching the internet looking for information on a 5th generation camaro, and finally GM unveiled it at this years NAIAS. When I told my grandfather he was ecstatic and thrilled when I asked him to go to the NAIAS with me to see it. The whole way there he kept saying “Im going to see my new car.” And the whole way home the whole convo was about the Camaro concept and nothing else. This is a car that if it makes it to show rooms across america, people are going to be camping out in front of the chevy dealers to get their hands on the first ones produced! And if GM builds it, and if its priced right, and if I have the money, ill be one of those people, along with my grandfather. And if I dont have the money, ill be saving up to get my hands on one!! I think the Camaro concept looks awesome, and if it goes to production I hope GM keeps the look it has now, but if Bob Lutz is involved I dont think we have to worry. But for now im going to continue to dream, and pray for the day the camaro comes back for 2nds and tears up the streets and tears apart the mustang!! Bob, work your magic and get this muscle machine back on the streets, we’ll all be waiting…
Joe
A muscle car is going to be my next purchase and every chevy I own now is a first year design such as the 04′ Malibu and the 05′ Equinox. I would like to add the Camaro to my list. I am already starting a savings account and what I call the Camaro Can Campaigne which is were every can and bottle refund from deposit will go my Camaro. I would hope you consider the decision to put this vehicle in production as it will be succussful just as the cobalt since replacing the Cavalier a short time ago.
Justin
I have already posted a comment but everytime I see pictures of the Camaro concept I just stare and dream about owning this camaro! So im posting another comment to tell GM to send this master piece to production!!
Matthew Puccio
This is the car I have been waiting over 3 years for. Since the day I was brought home from the hospital in my dads 70 1/2 camaro to the day I bought my 2000 camaro right off the lot brand new, the camaro has been my favorite car of all time. This of course means that I will buy the new camaro, “when” it comes out, and yes, that is what I belive will happen, afterall, look at all of these post. So with out further delay, build the car already and make some very loyal chevrolet owners very happy, especially this one, after all, what is chevrolet or gm for that matter without a muscle car. P.S. build it now!!!
Amos Childers
Sell the China cars from Chevy dealers. They are coming so we might as well join with them. Will increase traffic at dealers. And they may decide to to buy a Chevy
Amos
Ernie
PLEASE BUILD THIS CAR!!!! I would be the first one around to buy on and then go up against my brother-in-laws new Mustang
Philip Larrier
BOB LUTZ
After all these comments, you must have crux of it!
1) Stronger looking nose and
afterburner taillights.
2) Slightly lower cowl, slightly taller roof, so ingress/egress is better, and there’s some actual VISIBILITY.
3) The interior is TOO RETRO. Use a ‘69 INSPIRED but futuristic interior. Get rid of that huge split in the rear seat.
The car can be less wide.
4) Make sure this car is as light as possible. Let’s engineer for a change.
5) Price it under the ’stang even though it will be better, and show us you’re worth your salary by getting it in showrooms November ‘07.
You heard me BOB?
timothy
i believe chevy will knock out the toyota
Robert Wingard
at first i was hoping for a 69′ redo, but now i can say i like the mix of old & new. its been along time since i’ve bought american, but this movement toward design based on the heritage of the american automobiles has enthralled me.
i will buy one if/when its produced.
please add some type of “hidden headlight look” & crease the fenders like the 69′.
in closing just look to the crazy excitement and prices 1st gens. get on Barret-Jackson and i’m sure you’ll understand there are many more of us who want one, but can’t find or afford a nice one.
GM this is your chance to start moving in a different direction. don’t compete with the japenese and germans offer something they can’t GM’s history!
build it!
TONY
its about time,this is awesome car, dont let this die due regulations, the mustang has eat are lunch this pas 2 years, lets show ford what we can do. produce this car and do not water it down. it looks great! iam waiting to put my order in. you will sell this car. keep the price comparable to the mustang and get ready to produce a ton of cars. gm your on the right track don’t screw it up.
Chris
To me the Camaro is not that appealing except for the interior and the drivetrain. If you have to try and bring back the Camaro then bring back the Chevelle SS with all the same features like the Camaro’s interior and the drivetrain and make sure that there is some curves to it like Dodge did with there concept Challenger. Build a Chevelle and I will be there to buy. And for now the Challenger has got my vote. Hate to say it the Charger/Challenger are more appealing to buy then there would be to buy the Camaro. And if you have any pictures on a Chevelle I would like to see them
Don B.
I think the Camero is a good start for something that has been a long time
in coming. Only this time don’t let the Camero get too big like it did before
it was killed the first time. GM as well as Ford let there Camero and Mustang get too large. They forgot their heritage and got BIG.
I do think some more thinking needs to go into the tail light design.
GM is DEFINTELY on the right track.
Sean
This camaro is hardly up to expectations. All the hype leading up to it gives a sense of a huge let-down. On the other hand, the challenger is looking good…. The engine in that concept looks horrible too. I noticed that at the 2005 Cleveland auto show, you could walk up to all the cars and play a game of “find the engine”. All this plastic shrouding over the engines is getting really old. With an engine that nice, why hide it??
Teresa Valdez Klein
If this car were real (and got good fuel economy for its class) I would run out and buy one tomorrow.
Charles
I already had one of these in 1969, so I would rather see a new forward looking design that advances the automotive art, while holding true to the 2+2 front engine rear wheel drive layout. By the time GM is able to launch this car, I suspect retro-fatigue will have set in and that design will be just too late to the party.
charles
excellent. just look at the sales of the mustang GT and u will know that GM is giving up profit to their competitor. be careful not to cheapen the car. consider NOT building a v6 model. ford is having subsidize the leasing on the v6 mustangs to move them. also consider that many people are considering buying a mustang at $28k to $35k that can afford a much more expensive car. i am one of them. thus maybe u can make it NICER and more expensive or offer an exclusing SS interior or something. i am considering a C6 but many people wished the car had a STILL better interior (the new tahoes and STS and DTS etc look pretty good). keep the retro theme. why not? there are a lot of baby boomers.
and while u are at it make a REAR DRIVE V8 monte carlo for the nascar folks. it will sell like hot cakes.
i am 36. own a 2005 escalade (great truck horrible reliability and customer service).
2003 bmw z4 loaded on a lease
2004 dodge ram
Patrick Meyer
I love the fact that it is not just a rehash of the old camero. Dodge’s challenger and Ford’s mustang look very cool, but where do they go with redesigns for the future? This camero concept is brilliant, build it as quick as possible. I am a loyal chevy fan, give me a car that I can afford and get exicted about!!
Michael
I want one! That’s all that can be said about the NEW Camaro.
Mike R.
The Camaro looks AWESOME with exception to the 80’s Monte Carlo SS grill. Build and I will buy.
Scott Kempton
Well Bob—it appears that I’m not the first to write to you about the new Camaro concept. I live in Nashville, TN and drove all the way to Chicago to go to the auto show so I could see the new car in person. Your car made the trip worthwhile. It was by far the best looking car at the show—maybe the best looking car I’ve EVER seen. And I’m 50! I’ve read all the remarks on this blog about Chevy’s history of building boring cars, and they are absolutely right. However, this ONE car could re-ignite America’s passion and enthusiasm for Chevrolets. Whatever you do, do NOT dumb down the production version; after such a positive preview, with such high visibility, it would be a real turn-off to walk into the showroom and find a car that had been stripped of the good stuff by the bean counters. I know the outside rearview mirrors can’t stay because they’re just too impractical for use in the real world, and the huge tires probably can’t stay either, for the same reason. But try very hard to keep the beautifully delicate door handles, the gas filler, and the cool exhaust outlets. And the interior; don’t TOUCH a thing! I’m sure the interior of the concept car would be expensive to build, so charge an extra $700 or so as an upgrade if you have to, but at least make it available. Don’t make us settle for a lame, cheap imitation (have you seen the interior of the Mustang? Ugh.)
As for specific suggestions, I have a few. I know the base model will have a 6-cylinder, which is fine, but make it a NICE 6-cylinder. Have you ever driven a Toyota 6-cylinder? They’re superb. They sound and feel like a well-oiled precision machine. And for the V-8 version, the hairyer the better! I know I don’t have to worry about that though; Chevy’s KNOWS how to build hairy V-8’s. (and I wouldn’t even mind if it had the variable displacement feature, as long as it worked WELL). As for IRS vs solid axle; if you have to make it solid to save $$, I think that’d probably be OK, since, as at least one of your bloggers pointed out, the car WILL be raced. Besides, I seriously doubt many of this car’s customers would miss the subtle ride and handling benefits of an IRS. However, if it would turn out to actually be cheaper to go with an existing IRS than to engineer a new solid axle, that’d be OK too.
I just finished reading about the Camaro in the March issue of Automobile magazine, and it said that IF this car is built (you’re not seriously thinking about NOT building it, are you?), it’s unlikely it’d appear before 2010. Mr. Lutz, it’d be a huge mistake to make us wait that long for this car. A lot will happen in the auto industry in four years, and you can’t expect the public to maintain their enthusiasm for four years. I know that GM is having severe cashflow problems right now, but FIND the money to build this car now. If it were me making the decision whether to build more bland-mobiles (even very good ones), or this car, I know which one I’d choose! I, and America, NEED for Chevy to build good, exciting cars that we can actually aspire to own. The Japanese and the Koreans have demonstrated that they know how to build excellent transportation, but they’re clueless about what makes a car EXCITING. If Chevy can match (or at least approach) them in quality, exciting design like this Camaro will once again make Americans want to buy Chevrolets. And when you’re done with the Camaro, you can use the millions of profit $$ to build us an exciting Malibu and Impala!
I know this is a really long blog, but two more comments and then I’ll be done.
Malibu: I’m sure it’s a GOOD car, but who styled that ugly turd!?
Impala: really nice job updating that car. It looks and feels like a good car. The new styling is handsome (if a little timid) and the engineering and execution of the rest of the car approaches Camry in terms of “slickness”. And it’s a great value too! Judging by the huge numbers of them I’m seeing on the road, the rest of the public would seem to agree with me.
Oh, and one more comment: this blog with your personal comments is a stroke of genius. I’m sure you’re a VERY busy man, but it sure is nice to know that someone who matters at GM is actually listening to us common folk (a.k.a. buyers).
Regards,
Scott Kempton
P.S. I hope you’ve given Mr. Boniface and Mr. Peters a huge raise!
Keith James
There shouldn’t be any question abou whether it should be produced or not. It should built as soon as possible, with a few minor changes. Forget the IRS, go with a live axle. You have the vette for the high tech. Keep it LIGHT, unlike the GTO. The camaro built it’s legend on the dragstrip, let it further the legend there. Make the drivetrain capable of handling more than a 10% increase in power. I will buy one though as long as it is relatively affordable.
Eugene Smith
The Camaro is sweet! I don’t care what you put in the base model because I only want a Z28 with an LS7 or an L92 please no turbos or super chargers just plain ole chevy HP and torque. By the time you put it in production it will need at least 500 at the rear wheels.
Bring back the Berlinetta for the women and blingers, the Rally Sport for the middle market but top dog should be the Z28 with no SS badges.
Don Glessner
I have never been on a blog, called a radio show, or aspired to be on Jerry Springer. It would take something of monumental importance to make me try to sway the decisions of a corporate exec. and this is it. Tonight I saw the new Camaro on the cover of a magazine at the book store and it gave me a feeling I haven’t experienced in 20 years. This is coming from a soon to be 40 year old man with a partially restored 1969 Camaro sitting in the garage. The concept car is amazing. I have wished for years GM would make a new Camaro based on the ‘69 model. When Ford reinvented the Mustang I could only hope that it would lend inspiration to the task. You definately have a hit with the new design. Please, don’t change a thing and get it done. Great Job!!!!
ferne
I love the new Camaro. But I can’t decide to sell my 89 RS for the new one. Well, I will make the decision when they make theirs. One thing, make the Camaro light, easy to work on, easier to use aftermaket parts, and affordable. That is the reason why older Camaros and the imports are popular.
Did I tell you I wanted a black one
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Mike Rodriguez
You have to see this car in person to. The Pictures I’ve been seeing on the internet do not do this car justice. I was blown away as was everybody around me at the Chicago Auto Show. I take back what I said about not liking the grill. I love everything about the new Camaro. I am even going to sell my Mustang GT as soon as (crossing my fingers) production begins on this car. PLEASE BUILD IT SOON.
Brian Ripple
Looks good. I hope Chevy gets this car on the street very soon. Car has some edges and lines that may not be necissary. I think the wheel size is not going to work with the performance crowd. We want to be able to throw alot of the performance tires on the back without having to buy new wheels. Take it from some GM muscle car owners, 18s are a max size
Brett
Well it’s certainly about time that GM got around to bringing back the f-body. I really like the idea of going back to the first generation for influence. I absolutely love the perfect body lines of the 1st gen f-bodies. However, this 5th gen concept just looks silly and overexaggerated. The car looks as if it has some sort of nerf bar as the one cue is overdone. The “Corvette spice” is completely out of place and contrasts with the other body lines. The roofline and nose inlet are completely random! Then there’s the grill. It’s also been disrespectfully overexaggerated (recurring theme). The headlights make for a “beady little eye” look and are made even worse by the needless expanding of the grill towards the center (or does it shrink to the outside). The instrumentation on the inside is neat although I wouldn’t want to look towards the center console while driving. Thankfully, many of these overdone design flaws may dissappear in the production model (they’d better anyway). We all saw how much better the new production mustang looked than its original concept. One thing I was sad to not see was the mention of an RS style of grill. Now on a more positive note, the proportions of the car a very nice looking. Also, Gm has some very desirable drivetrain options. If I were to buy this camaro as it appeared, I would be forced to hack off the blasphemous front end, fill in the arbitrary roofline and nose inlet, and finally pretend that it didn’t have a nerf bar/running board as a bodyline. I really hope GM brings back the camaro by 2009 (although 2007 seemed to be more fitting) . . . just try to clean it up some.
K. Kendall
Forget the camaro:
Think 1970 Chevelle SS, the A-body had something going for it. The Camaro has a poor reputation of being “cheap”, ask most women what they think of when you say camaro. Leave the inexpensive 4 door sedan to Cobalt and G6, and give Malibu a car the name deserves. There’s nothing like the ground pounding power and stance of the chevelle, and not many cars say muscle car better! Additionally, I personally prefer the LS6 454 to the LS6 small block of late.
That being said, here is another thought. The Camaro was quite a small car at the time of it’s introduction in the 60’s. All of the other cars got smaller over the years, and the Camaro became a large car. Re-evaluate the people buying the car, the camaro is for a younger crowd… make it a smaller car and introduce a midsized Chevelle to keep buyer options open. In 2002, I could get the camaro or the firebird… THE SAME CAR! We know you can share platforms from one sized car to the next… why can’t it be done with performance cars?
Finally, if we must have the Camaro instead of the Chevelle… A HiPo suggestion. Priced in the high 30k low 40k, a COPO ZL1 427 (7.0 liter) Camaro would be quite enticing! The Corvette crowd can’t complain if the ZL1 Camaro outran their corvette, they should have bought the Z06…
If GM does build the Camaro rather than the Chevelle I’ll be one of the anxious buyers ready to get one.
Maurice Gisler
I would rather see a GTO nameplate on this one. The Camaro nameplate comes with too much of a “low brow” perception [primarily caused by the 1980's and 1990's models] especially on the East and West coasts.
K. Kendall
Or, you could set it up over a several year Vehicle name/brand rotation: For example…
Produce the camaro for several years, when the time comes for a refresh, redo the car and re-badge as a firebird and drop the camaro for a while. Keep motor mounts consistent if engines change, and sell the new powertrain to aftermarket buyers to keep the “older” ‘08 camaro up to date.
At the same time, do the same for the GTO… redesign now for US production, and a few years down the road redesign/build as chevelle with the same or updated powertrain. The frequent redesign could promote one person to buy each new car for collection, or it could catch the new buyer with every facelift/badge rotation. It could also be billed as a test to see what people are looking for.
Finally, GM will be selling the Camaro and GTO at the same time…. however, firebird won’t directly compete with camaro, or GTO won’t directly compete with Chevelle. Buyers have the option to spend a little more on the GTO, or a little less for the camaro (smaller platform). On paper, the cars never truly change.
Rawb
Ummm not a real big fan of the retro looks, maybe a pontiac TA with more modern look? Dont know if this could be done on this platform but also my main concern would be the rear end? Something that would stand up to a launch that this car would be made to do would be nice. Any info on the rear or tranny ? The looks continue to grow on me but i dont know if i could ever deal with the itneriors i have seen on the net.I Drive modern muscle cars not mini’s we will need real working good guages and places for more…
Mike Patterson
Great looking car to all involved! The front is a little long and pointy, the intake on the front needs to go. please take another approach on that, but the grille and headlights are perfect, add hideaways as an option! The rear of the car is absolutely a home run, I prefer the ‘68 look over the ‘69. Bring the rear valance a little lower? I love the body lines like the cadillac’s. My biggest gripe would be the non commital to the production of the car, I would buy it just the way it is, but would want to be buried with it with the minor design changes I mentioned. I can’t figure out why with all the hype you guys can’t just show us a production model and take orders and deposits and see where that goes..if you feel the desire from all of us isn’t there, refund the money and call it quits on the design..I really think that you will be suprised to see that more people than you think will put their money where their mouth is! Just do all of us hopefuls a favor and build the d**n thing! You’ll never look back! The sooner the better..
Tony
OK look, this car will never go into production mr.Lutz, and even if it does, it will not sell. Why you ask? simply because of the budjet. The Ford Mustang uses a axle suspension in the rear, and if you guys choose to use a fully independent system, then it will cost more money. If it costs more money, less people will buy it. Not only that but wouldn’t a muscle car be better off with a automatic tranny? I think it would. And your camaro looks to avanced, regardless of what people are saying on this blog, it will no sell well. The mustang looks like a classic, and the future challenger looks a bit too far out. I “prophisize” that this car will not sell well at all, and the challenger will sell rather modestly. The reason why the mustang is selling so well is because of price and its muscular, handsome looks. Finaly gm, the secret to a muscle car isn’t performance. Its a coupe that is relatively heavy, can’t turn like a sports car, but can go very fast in a straight line. If you make the camaro less futuristic, les “performance orisnted” and more muscled, it will sell. Otherwise, dont even bother.
Wayne Scraba
Over the years, I’ve had five first generation Camaros, two third generation cars and three fourth generation cars (I’m an old curmudgeon). I’ve ripped them apart. I’ve modified them. I’ve raced them. I’ve thrashed them and they always came back for more. The Camaro was Chevrolet’s hot rod for the average guy. Truthfully, I was devastated when the Camaro bit the dust. To me, at least, the demise of the Camaro meant that Chevy lost its Mojo. With this car, you’ve found it (in a big way). Build it. I want one. And make it a lightweight stripper with a big engine.
Thanks for your time….
Wayne Scraba
jim ball
I like the style of the new mustang, I like the looks of the challenger too. But I am a chevy person what do you have for me in a rear wheel drive with muscle that seats 4.
Tim
I think that if you redesign that grill and add sme t-tops that will help alot as far as looks go.
Ben Schall
I am a college student. I am also a member of a large rising demographic. Too many of my fellow students are being “scared” away from GM. Also, following my demographic are those who want to be part of it. I’m talking about older generations of people who buy the cars that young people drive. I bought my ‘97 Firebird this past July. When I saw this car I had to have it. The first time I drove it I fell in love. I intend to add another car to my garage when I graduate next year. I pray that GM will allow it to be 2007 Camaro next to my ‘97!
Steve
-If you want to sell it, make sure it is well under 30K(out the door) for a nice Z28 with LS2 (400HP) and a T56, price has always sold the camaro, if necessary(hate to say this) drop the independent rear to lower the price. Price is the most important feature, even more than ultimate performance
- Offer a standard low buck V6 low 20K that is still faster than a Civic Si. I worry about the future of GM, not capturing the enthusiasm of the younger crowd. Once you buy something you have a tedency to stick with it if it worked well. One of my first cars was a Firebird and then moved up to a 1995 model, I am now ready for a new one again
- If it sells well, don’t allow dealers to price gouge, uncrease the volume. Volume always wins rather than high price(WALMART). You need to get as many of these cars out on the streets to make the younger crowd want them. RWD is superior to FWD, people need to see these cars on the street and realize it.
- Make sure the car is light to help achieve high MPG, people are normally under the impression that the F-bodies are gas guzzlers and not practical - prove them wrong
-If it’s too expensive it will just be another GTO, but at least the camaro looks better
- Offering a special model with 500+HP would be a nice thing to create additional enthusiasm
Tim
Simply beautiful; a perfect blend of style and strength, past and future.
If this car is made, I’d buy it without thinking. If it will not be made, I will boycott chevy. Possibly even GM.
don’t make me cry… bring it back.
Troy soncrant
mr.lutz I love the new z-28 but could make it and keep the cost down in the mid.$20.000 that would be nice for all the guy that only make $30000 - $40000 a year income and could you do some things to the new monte carlo ss like pin stripes like they did back in the 80’s when the sold well that would and add ss to the front seats.when you do that I will buy one . thanks again Troy
Jon
The grille needs to be modified, but keep the lights the way they are. Optional halo/HID Xenon headlights are a must. The wheels are way too large, those would be some expensive tires, 17/18’s should be fine. Interior needs to be toned down a bit. I like all the lights and stuff, but make the dash/steering wheel a bit more modern looking with high quality plastics and real aluminum/chrome trim. Models with leather should contain REAL leather not that vinyl. Emergency brake should be up near the shifter. I would like some quality cup holders that actually hold multiple cup sizes. Finally my main concern is curb weight. V8 models should be no more than 3,400lbs. I can’t stress that enough. Actually a lot of GM cars are overweight compared to foreign competition (Cobalt, Impala, GTO, Solstice) just to name a few. Weight hurts fuel economy, performance and handling!!!!
On a side note, if you plan to release this around 2009, you shouldn’t have unveiled it 3 years prior. Reason is because when it’s finally out, it’ll look dated. Unless if it comes out in 2007/2008, I think that was a bad idea. Also keep your life/redesign cycles a maximum of 4 years, not only for the Camaro but every car. I’m 20, but remember in the 60’s where every year was a redesign? That keeps products fresh and tasteful.
Jason
Mr. Lutz,
Beautiful car. Please build fast. Don’t dull it down too much. My money is waiting, but I will not buy the standard, offer the Z28 or SS right from the beginning.400+ hp.
James G.
Great design, I hope to see T-tops and a Z28 / SS package.
Adam B.
You guys really need to make this car so I and others like me don’t have to settle for the only other V8 powered rwd american car for the right price (Mustang) on the market. GM you NEED a pony car!
Ann-Marie Tidwell
Is it here yet?
I dream of having one constantly.
Please make it.
Ann-Marie
AE Falzon
Mr Lutz, I can’t believe that GM is serious in building this limited sales potential vehical. With all the financial problems at GM, Gas prices flirting the $3.00 area and many other issues surround the largest auto company in the world, I would think you would focus GM’s great resourse on a high mpg family vehicle of 5/6 passanger capacity. Once GM has stabilized its finances, union relations, and brought back consumer confidence it the products it builds, then yes, of course build it. But until the previous goals are meet, keep dream cars like this in perspective. GM must survive first, and GM is not Chrysler. Chrysler is able to survive and profit from the ninch market. I believe that is one valueable lesson that they brought over when they took over the Great American Motors Corp. But GM cannot survive in the ninch market. Look at the cost of the SSR. It it a beautiful truck, but the plant that builds it is shut down. Bob, Build the logical vehicles that will keep GM ahead of Toyota. Get the Quality of GM up. Then go after this market.
AE Falzon
Pierre Roberge
You don’t get it! All you guys seem to be able to do is create cars with V8s. You won’t stay #1 doing that. How many Camaros do you think you will sell?
You need a Camry/Accord killer. You can create all the V8/retro/nostalgia cars you want but until you create a Camry/Accord killer you will lose your #1 spot.
R Hallman
I owned a 350 69 SS Camaro with the RS package and I have been looking forward to see your new version of this classic. The 69 body lines were unique to one year and it was the last of the first generation Camaros. Well I am very disappointed in your “new” 69. Everyone knows that the RS hide-away headlight grill was one of the 69’s most attractive features but it was overlooked in your design. How about the Cowl-Induction hood? Front & rear spoilers? Stripes on the hood or sides? Some tasteful chrome or polished metal trim? Rally wheels? I have to squint at your new 69 to see any resemblance to the beautiful car that I drove. I hope that Pontiac can improve on this Chevy design like they did with the 2nd,3rd & 4th generation F bodies. At this point, I prefer the Mustang or Challenger on appearance only. I hope this design is only a “Concept” and not a reality. There is a market waiting for a Camaro that resembles the 69 model but this car is NOT it.
Art McWilliams
At 59 years old, I find myself falling in love again, but this time it is with your new Camaro Concept Car.
I can’t wait to see it at a dealership and get one, so I can finally pass up the multitude of Mustangs that now seem to own the highway.
Let’s get this project in the showrooms.
cb
gm needs to build a camaro for another 35 years, with a retro to match each year built for the first 35 years, follow the same body lines, grills, hide away headlamps like the 69 rs-z28,
etc.
mM
I love the look of this car!! Make it affordable and (once again) able to outrun the mustang.
Joe
Mr. Lutz, in reference to the Camaro concept, you said you would like to be able to build it, but that “Circumstances dictate that we have other priorities that come first.” What comes before your mission to instill design passion and a customer focus at GM? Solstice and Sky are a great start, but the Impala is made purely for the rental fleets.
Here’s your business case for a next-gen Camaro: Dad has about $24-30K to spend on his transportation needs and wants. The needs include reliability, economy, and the ability to haul the family in a pinch. The wants include performance and style. Only a few models currently offer the right mix. Check out sales of Mustang and G35, and you’ll get the idea.
By the way, if you fail to build it, I will be forced to buy an unrealiable, uneconomical ‘67-’69 Camaro (in good from afar but far from good condition) and an economical, reliable beater car with my $24-30K. But then I need to expand the garage…
Brien Fournerat
BUILD THE CAR! YOU HAVE A PUBLIC SCREAMING TO BUY IT! WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED? YOU ARE WASTING TIME AND MOPAR,FORD and the imports are stealing faithful F-BODY customers! WE CANT ALL AFFORD 45K-75K to buy a VETTE! Build the car now! Start MSRP loaded at $29,999.00 and you will make America happy. No one cares about this car having ONSTAR or GPS or MP3 players! WE ALL CARE ABOUT PERFORMANCE!
Janet Mendoza
I love it! I am a current Camaro owner, and have been waiting for the new Camaro. I do not want to purchase a Ford Mustang. This new Camaro has to be produced and SOON! I have already made a call to the local chevrolet dealer. I want to be the first in my city to own one.
Steve D
Awsome car!!! Build it and I will be there with cash in hand. Really sharp style here. Dont’ chage the looks, but make sure you have a version with 400+ HP from the start. Don’t go short on the HP the first year, only to come out with more the following years so we will need to buy another a year later to keep stomping on Mustangs and Challengers.
Been a long time F-Body owner, and longing for another!!!
Willie Brown
This Camaro has put me in a trance since I first layed eyes on it. I own a 72 Camaro and I’m in the market to buy a new car. The GTO caught my attention but the styling and weight is kinda making me think about getting a 2000ish Vette Hardtop. Hurry up and decide if you’re going to build this so I don’t spend my saved up cash. I want one now!!!!!!!
Numbers Guy
If you add up the number of positive responses and times that figure by the MSRP for the new camaro, that’s alot of revenue for GM. The numbers don’t lie!! Build with the exterior as is soon and all of those red numbers will go black.
JAMES
Lutz is going to screw up GM again with this car. this is such a beautiful car that without a doubt needs to be sold. what is wrong is that Lutz can seem to figure out the concept of demand. there are more people interested in this car then any vehicle from chevy for the last 15 years (including the C6 vette.) to tell you the truth this car is probably showing more hype then any car from GM world wide withen the last decade. there are actually other car companies scrambling to figure out how to deal with this. now you have Lutz here saying 2009. the great Demand there is for this car may be gone by then. Lutz always seems to think that the auto world is on his timeline. I just hope this wonderful car will make it to market before some other car comes and steals all its thunder (like the nissan GT-R for example.) so i guess we can sit back, wait, and see if Lutz can truly run an icon (GM) into the ground.
Jose' Rodriquez
Hi thank you for producing one of the greatest concepts of all time! I hope that we can get some type of confermation soon! I feel that this car will sell enough units to make a valid business case and I think you know this as well! I hope that you have alittle time to visit http://www.5thgen.org we hope to see this concept in the dealerships across the country a.s.a.p! We know that the sky,solsitce,and vette sold out so bring the camaro and watch it sell out too! How about a ZL-1?
Kevin
Bob, The camaro has to be built for gm to survive because without the firebird and camaro there is no muscle for the middle class people which makes up most of the american population to enjoy. Nobody wants an aveo or a wannabe cavalier named the cobalt, or a grand prix with the heart and soul of a gto. People want the Camaro back Americas only really truelly inspirational car. You say gm is hurting for sales well think about it. its not hard to figure out. Everybody Ive talked to at the University of Memphis and my job have seen it and love it and say they will buy it. It will be gms bread and butter again just like the Mustang to Ford. Please revive it make it the Heartbeat of America once more
James Carter
If Chevy doesn’t put this car on the road they are fools & I’ll be driving a Musting
A Harman
Bob, thank you for the showing of this new beautiful sports car, please produce it! Chevy deserves the opportunity to re-do this awesome sports car (Camaro) and bring back much integrity to it’s sportier side. I know quite a few customers that would line up to grab one!
Thanks again!
A Harman
L.I. NY
JP
Mr. Lutz,
I suggest the following Camaro lineup in coupe and convertible models:
Camaro RS
V-6
Manual or Auto
$20-25K
Camaro SS
V-8 (LS2)
Manual 6-Speed
or Auto
$25-30K
Camaro Z/28
V-8 (LS 7)
Manual 6-Speed
or Auto
$30-35K
I am 36 years old with an annual income of $80K. I currently drive a Ford Ranger and Honda CR-V, but I have previously owned 4 Pontiacs:
‘68 (350/2-BBL/AT), ‘74 (350/2-BBL/AT), ‘79 10th Silver Anniversary (400/4-SPD), ‘88 Formula 350.
I also would like to see either a Firebird or GTO return on this platform. Build it and they…(you know the rest).
s. smith
Mr Lutz,
Please do not introduce the new Camaro any time soon as it would certainly force me to make monthly GMAC payments for the next 3 years.
My wife thanks you for your assistance in this matter.
W. Zielinski
GM needs this! How can you have the GTO and no camaro? I’m so sick of Fords and Dodges! With all the improvments GM has made in production and performance of vehicles it’s time to shut Mustang owners up and with quotes from Chrysler Group President and CEO Tom LaSorda “nearly 35 years later, Dodge Challenger will return as the ultimate modern American muscle coupe as a 2008 model” The camaro needs to flex GM muscle once again! You build it and we will buy it. I would like to place my order now!
D.Kikuchi
put options like
1) 572 cubic inch
2)z06 motor
3) BREMBO BRAKES
4) ENOUGH power to blow away all fords and chryslers.
5) bring out a 1970 chevelle ss…….retro.
6) remember too much is not enough…….more is better.
7) Don’t forget to put headers in the trunk… or better yet, get headers that are smog legal……
Adam
Where do I sign? I promised my wife the first one! She has been wanting a 67-69 Camaro for 20 years. I didnt want the “old car” maintainence.
It would be nice for GM to lead the trends instead of follow Ford(Mustang) or Chrysler(Challenger).
I have worked in GM Engineering for nearly 15 years. Its frustrating to move at the speed of sloth.
Please pull a “Bob Lutz”. Get a small independent team together and BUILD IT!!!
Joe
Build this car! It’s much sleeker than the charger (4 doors! what was Chrysler thinking), and cool as the challenger. The only problem with the camaro concept is that their is no Firebird sitting beside it. I own a 99 TA and would buy the camaro but If they build a ‘bird too then sign me up for one in white and blue and a black and gold!
JASON DANNER
Dear Mr. Lutz - I love GM and I am a faithful customer. Your company helped put me through college with an excellent 4 year engineering COOP - thanks, I will not forget! The 2002 Z28 I purchased after graduation will always be a beloved member of my family! May the legend live on!
Beautiful work on the exterior of this concept camaro! May I offer a memorable paraphrase from Steve Jobs? He said: “It’s a real challenge for a design team to avoid letting the concept get watered down as it moves from conception into reality - you must confront engineers/managers that love to say this or that can’t be done!” Amen.
I look forward to purchasing a fifth generation camaro, and I know that you can’t please everyone. I’d still like to offer a bit of self serving, constructive criticism. I’ll put it simply - I’m not excited about the interior as shown. I’ll step out farther on a limb and postulate that the heart of auto nostalgia is more about the exterior looks and proportions than it is about the old school gauges, poor ergonomics, boring-expansive dashboards, and materials of yester-year. A nice balance of retro vs. fresh exists on the outside, but the interior?
One last request, please don’t forget my beloved T-Tops, they are a great affordable alternative to the convertible, and to me a Camaro just “aint” a Camaro without them! Thank you for your time and good luck with the design! I eagerly await 2008!
lance s.
i love the new camaro, but it looks too much like a caddy. i prefer the model shown at
Nick
First off, I like the new design. The appeal of retro 1969 updated to today’s luxuries, safety, more corrosion resistant materials, better fuel efficiency, etc… all makes this car ever more appealing.
My concern is the following: When seeing the various stages of prototype to development of the GTO there were a lot of things GM just forgot about along the way. GM originally killed the Camaro, Firebird and Trans Am because the Mustang was outselling all three combined and obviously the profit margin wasn’t there. Then what does GM do? They replace those vehicles with another car priced outside the Mustang’s range…and they give us some line about the GTO isn’t supposed to compete with the Mustang. Hands down the GTO can kick the crap out of a Mustang…but with the saved money I can build a Mustang that can stomp the GTO! I don’t want to see them make the same mistake with the new Camaro.
For a short period of time they WILL sell quite a few just for nostalgic purposes…however, what is GM doing to combat the Mustang? Right now it looks like NOTHING! If they could provide a retro Camaro in the pricerange of a Mustang…they might not have to spend another 6 or more years without a Camaro!
Will GM wake from the slumber and realize what the public wants?
Robert Berquist
I really like the new camaro. what’s in store for 2009
Dale Kanis
Let’s face the 67-69 Camaro was the Ugliest of all Camaros till now. The Firebird was always nicer so why not build that. Had more style more class in any generation as Camaros were for rednecks unless of course the Iroc. PS. the Firebird would be the only car to get me out of my Subaru Impreza
Dave
I think after all the research that I have done on this car, I can’t seem to find a thing wrong with it, it’s as close to prefect as you can get, although I think that you should release a Z/28 model at the first, along with the SS, they complement each other so well, in any case it’s a great car, “KUDOS” to you Chevrolet.
BigBru
I Hunger for that car……..that’s exactly what I want …..LS7…..a Shelby/Challenger killer. I would buy one right now……..this car is torturing me!
Dave
Thanks guys, and by the way I hope you live off of the past for a long time, you seen what happened when you didn’t back in 2002, I love the new camaro, and I have one on order, a 1ss and I can’t wait for it to get here, for all of the idiots who don’t like the new camaro, I hope it has a long run, and builds a reputation just like the first ones did.
You have done a wonderful job on it, thanks to the design team,and to Mr.Lutz for producing it, I’m going to have a lot of fun with mine.
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